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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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 Posted - 22 Apr 2004 : 13:14:55
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I have a number of friends birthdays coming up on my social calendar next month (five in fact), not to mention the Sage's which is in a few days. The majority of these friends are role-players, three of which regularly participate in the Sage's Realms campaign.
Four of these five only have a few gaming accessories between them, since they don't have a lot of money to buy every accessory they might like. What I'm looking for are some suggestions on possible general d20 gaming accessories that you might think would make, either interesting or useful presents. I would like to keep this as a surprise, which means that I really can't go out and ask them what they want.
So, let's try it this way. If someone was buying a game accessory for you as a present, what d20 product would you like to receive as a gift?. Any suggestion will do, and, I appreciate the assistance  .
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Apr 2004 : 13:20:25
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Well for something really useful and with a slight personal edge... how about one of the Quintessential handbooks from Mongoose Publishing? That way you can give a different specific class\race book to each of the characters based on the character they play in the campaign 
I did that once for a pressie when I ran a 2nd edition FR campaign, giving a friend one of the old AD&D Complete Handbooks....went down a treat  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Apr 2004 : 15:31:22
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| I would ask them what they wanted, but come at it from an oblique angle. Just get a casual conversation going on about some of the recent releases, and expand it to cover some older releases, too... Within a few minutes, your players will provide you with a wishlist without even realizing it! |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Apr 2004 : 16:31:12
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I would ask them what they wanted, but come at it from an oblique angle. Just get a casual conversation going on about some of the recent releases, and expand it to cover some older releases, too... Within a few minutes, your players will provide you with a wishlist without even realizing it!
Exactly the way to go. |
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SoulLord
Seeker
Mexico
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Posted - 22 Apr 2004 : 18:55:26
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Adding my 2 coppers
Dice besides my usual pouch y always keep a set saved just in case or
for the case a guest arrives without theirs.
Miniatures, not overly expensive and if you have the gift you could
paint them which shows a lot for the time you invest into it.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 17:03:14
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Step 1: find out what they have.
Step 2: buy what they don't.
Well, that works more for me, since I've got basically nothing aproaching what most people here have . . . .  |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 07:34:55
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Really Bookwyrm? . . . 
If you don't mind my asking, which tomes do you actually have?.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 07:56:18
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I have only three books that I've actually bought retail. (The 3e PHB, The Draconomicon, and The Complete Warrior.) I also have used copies of Volo's Guide to the North, Faiths & Avatars, and The Forgotten Realms Atlas.
I have access to several others, but that's the extent of my actual, personal D&D non-novel library. I could list all the stuff I have access to, but some of it I can't mention here. 
I fully intend to buy more of this stuff, but the problem remains that I'm a cash-strapped college student whose only job is helping his handicaped mother around and babysitting his niece. D&D books are not my chief priority. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:04:03
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So you have no access to any of the revised 3.5e rulebooks?. I assume then that you use the SRD?.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:12:10
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| Quite correct. It's got a shortcut on my desktop, since I have to jump to it so often. Other than that and the two 3.5e books I have, the only revised-rules material I can look at are the teasers they post on the WotC website. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:20:43
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That must be a little frustrating at times, especially in the cases when material presented as previews on the WotC site is slightly changed once it sees print?.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:24:16
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Or just not knowing things that other people know -- like the recent books that have been published.
Well, after a while, I'll grab a thing or two. It's annoying -- I happened to be at a mall some distance from my home about two weeks about, and there was a WotC store closing. They had the FRCS and OA there, with some discount (I'm not sure how much). I had to pass it up, though, because I was even more broke than usual. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:38:09
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Well, the OA tome isn't as necessary for most games, unless you intend to run a campaign, or a PC with some unique oriental flavoring. Besides, a lot of the support material for the Rokugan setting that has been released so far has made most of the information in OA largely obsolete.
In fact, I've only ever seen the Sage refer to the OA tome when he's running his semi-monthly 'Kara-Tur 3e campaign'. For most of the time, it sits under a stack of Dragon magazine issues.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:44:31
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| Well, that's somewhat comforting. And the fact that the FRCS didn't have the foldout map of the Realms that Sage said they had let me give that one up as well, since I have access to the other copy at home. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 08:54:15
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
Well for something really useful and with a slight personal edge... how about one of the Quintessential handbooks from Mongoose Publishing? That way you can give a different specific class\race book to each of the characters based on the character they play in the campaign
I did that once for a pressie when I ran a 2nd edition FR campaign, giving a friend one of the old AD&D Complete Handbooks....went down a treat
Now, to answer some of these responses . . .
An excellent suggestion Lord Rad. From what I've read in the Quintessential thread in another part of the library, these tomes would make wonderful gifts.
I like Wooly Rupert's suggestion the most though, since it has the benefits of providing me with more information. Of course, the questions have to be worded correctly in order for this to work . . .
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 09:26:49
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I like Wooly Rupert's suggestion the most though, since it has the benefits of providing me with more information. Of course, the questions have to be worded correctly in order for this to work . . .
His method is also simpler than mine, dressing up in a ninja outfit and breaking into their homes to catalogue what may be missing from their collections... although my method could be more fun.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 09:35:39
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Interesting, but you'd have to have high enough ranks in the 'Hide' and 'Move Silently' skills for it to work though . . . .
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 09:37:45
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Whereas all the Lady needs at the moment is Gather Information and perhaps Bluff . . . .  |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 09:41:38
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Nice addition, although it leaves me floundering around like a flatfish caught in a net when trying to determine what to buy the Sage for his birthday. I doubt such skills will work against a Loremaster of considerable skill and experience like Rastromo . . .  .
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 15:31:10
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You could just come to the dark side..... 3 rounds of observation and a bad fort save and you dont have to worry about getting him a present.... or just give him a box of minis.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 : 16:07:21
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I suppose, but considering the effort he went to in order to get me something I would like, it's only fair that I reciprocate. And, he's got enough minis (both Warhammer and D&D) for the time being, so no help there I'm afraid . . .
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 04:47:31
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| By the way, I just added The Player's Guide to Faerun to my collection today. I had a coupon . . . . |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 04:57:01
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
By the way, I just added The Player's Guide to Faerun to my collection today. I had a coupon . . . .
Congratulations of some type are in order, I believe. |
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 05:02:07
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Yes i belive i am going to puchase it on the morrow. looks pretty cool from what i can tell i think im going to get lords of darkness as well
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 05:29:57
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
And, he's got enough minis (both Warhammer and D&D) for the time being, so no help there I'm afraid . . .
Is it really possible for a Warhammer player to have enough minis? |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 05:38:54
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Hmm how about taking a turn as the DM and setting up some sort of "Birthday mini adventure" for all of them together? It would only cost you time if your short on money and it would be something thats a lot of fun for everyone and of course provide cake and milk while you play  |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 06:22:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Is it really possible for a Warhammer player to have enough minis?
No kidding.
I found out the hard way how to piss off some harcore Warhammer players. I jumped into a pick up game at Dundracon here in California. Now, I don't play it at all and have never considered miniatures all that important -- give me another game supplement any day over a painted hunk of plastic, lead, or pewter. Needless to say, when I tried to have them designate the 20 or so D6's I had placed on the table as my troops there was a very uncomfortable silence. You would have thought they were rat droppings the way they reacted.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 06:29:27
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From what I understand, the customization of miniatures in Warhammer (speaking as someone who knows even less now than you did then) is like the roleplaying in D&D. If you don't do it, you're automatically a pariah among the "real" players.
Of course, that trivializes it, doesn't it? Oh, not the hunks of plastic -- the idea of good roleplaying being "Oh, cool miniature . . . ." |
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 07:15:29
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I had another idea (if you didn't see my first one Lady Kazandra please go back to the first page of this scroll )
If you are even somewhat artistic or just like to draw/paint you could make a character portrait for each of their favorite characters? I think that would be such a cool present |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 14:33:12
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
By the way, I just added The Player's Guide to Faerun to my collection today. I had a coupon . . . .
That's great to hear Bookwyrm, I'm happy for you . Although, where did you get a coupon from?
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 14:40:50
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
And, he's got enough minis (both Warhammer and D&D) for the time being, so no help there I'm afraid . . .
Is it really possible for a Warhammer player to have enough minis?
I take it then, that you play Warhammer . . . ?
Besides, it's not only Warhammer minis, it's the WH40K and Mordheim miniatures as well, not to mention a number of GW LotR miniature lines . . . 
I like your idea Wood Elf. Remind me to tell you about the Sage's April Fool's Day adventure special sometime. It deals a little with the idea you just mentioned. Although, it will have to be a private conversation, since Alaundo may frown on some of the aspects of this special adventure - let's just say it features a very bizarre twist on the Bookwyrm's, Jack Archer of Earth character design.
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RPG accessories that make great B'day presents...
