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Originally posted by LordofBones

Divine connection to who? Titania? The Queen of Air and Darkness?

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Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

Test playing this armor on this coming saturday night. Any suggestions before I give it a go?

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Test playing this armor on this coming saturday night. Any suggestions before I give it a go?

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Maybe the armor only attunes to a Tel'Quessir, drow excluded. The penalty perhaps would be a
baleful polymorph in a twist of its useful powers.

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Originally posted by Diffan

So the item pricing is pretty off.

• Masterwork leather - 160 gp
• +5 armor enhancement - 25,000 to
• Death Ward armor enhancement (+1 bonus) - +11,000 for +6 total enhancement bonus
• armor of Freedom (+5 bonus) - ? Since this is effectively a +11 enhancement bonus armor and the chart only goes to +10, so at minimum 100,000.
• Crystal of Mind Cloaking - 10,000 go.


I'm sorry about the typo. It was supposed to be 180,150 gp. I just noticed it. Thank you!
So excluding that there's no official pricing of items past +10 enhancement (maybe the ELH has more info on that?) we can only assume it's get exponentially higher in cost. I tried extrapolating the cost vs bonus from +6 to +10 but it's...weird. I'd say a round park number is +25,000 for a +11 total enhancement bonus.

With that all added up, you're looking at an item that has a price of $135,160 gp. Then you're adding magic spell-like abilities to them based on HD....I dunno maybe another could of thousand? So roughly $140 to $150,160 gp?

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Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, let's ignore the relic ability.

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Use the guidelines for nonepic magic items to determine the market price of an epic magic item, with one addition: If the item gives a bonus beyond the limit allowed in for normal, nonepic magic items, multiply the portion of the market price derived from that characteristic by 10. Some epic characteristics, such as caster level, don’t trigger this multiplier.

So, for nonepic, a +11 armor would be 11 * 11 * 1,000 = 121,000 gp. However, Magic armor bonuses are enhancement bonuses, never rise above +5, and stack with regular armor bonuses (and with shield and magic shield enhancement bonuses).

Since +5 armor would be worth 25,000 gp, that means the true cost is 25,000 + (121,000 - 25,000) * 10 = 25,000 + 960,000 = 985,000 gp.

Then on top of that, you want to add a +10,000 gp property. That constitutes a "multiple different ability."
Abilities such as an attack roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not similar, and their values are simply added together to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on a character’s body each additional power not only has no discount but instead has a 50% increase in price.

That adds 10,000 * 1.5 = 15,000 gp.

So total cost is 1,000,160 gp.

Now, the relic ability doesn't actually cost anything, but you didn't specify it correctly:

Here's a sample paragraph:

To use the relic power, you must worship Obad-Hai and either sacrifice a 4th-level divine spell slot or have the True Believer feat and at least 7 HD. If you sacrifice a 6th-level divine slot (or have the True Believer feat and at least 11 HD), you can use the relic power two times per day.

So you are putting multiple shapechange slots on the armor, which is a 9th level spell. I would guess the language is something like this, but I can't find an epic relic example.:

To use the relic power, you must worship Erevan and either sacrifice a 9th-level divine spell slot or have the True Believer feat and at least 17 HD. If you sacrifice 2 9th-level divine slots (or have the True Believer feat and at least 21 HD), you can use the relic power two times per day.

--Eric

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So you are putting multiple shapechange slots on the armor, which is a 9th level spell. I would guess the language is something like this, but I can't find an epic relic example.:

To use the relic power, you must worship Erevan and either sacrifice a 9th-level divine spell slot or have the True Believer feat and at least 17 HD. If you sacrifice 2 9th-level divine slots (or have the True Believer feat and at least 21 HD), you can use the relic power two times per day.

--Eric

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So you are putting multiple shapechange slots on the armor, which is a 9th level spell. I would guess the language is something like this, but I can't find an epic relic example.:

To use the relic power, you must worship Erevan and either sacrifice a 9th-level divine spell slot or have the True Believer feat and at least 17 HD. If you sacrifice 2 9th-level divine slots (or have the True Believer feat and at least 21 HD), you can use the relic power two times per day.

--Eric

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After thinking about this, I would amend it 2 ways. First, it really should have been an 11th level spot, not 2 9th level spots. I forgot you can create an 11th slot with Improved Spellcasting Ability.

Second, I think I would require a new epic feat, Epic True Believer to access that level of power.I might even require an intermediate feat, called Improved True Believer to access a significant level of power. So I might come away with something like:

To use the relic power, you must worship Erevan and either sacrifice a 9th-level divine spell slot or have the Improved True Believer feat and at least 17 HD. If you sacrifice an 11th-level divine slot (or have the Epic True Believer feat and at least 21 HD), you can use the relic power two times per day.

Epic True Believer is an epic feat and has Improved True Believer as a pre-req. Improved True Believer has True Believer as a prereq. You can probably deduce the flavor text, etc.

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