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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  05:39:12  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
After much disruption, and delay, the Sage's copy of the Player's Guide to Faerun finally arrived late yesterday. Looking over the package, I sat wondering for several moments about whether or not I should open it.

You see, I have to make a choice between two equally unfavorable options. Either I leave the package unopened, meaning my access to current Realmslore is slightly delayed (the Sage isn't due home for at least a few more days yet). Or, I open the package now, and not inform the Sage since it's delivery was meant to be a surprise for when he returns. It's also the reason I've haven't told him via what you all now call ethereal-mail.

So, what choice do I make . . .?. I'm hoping someone can help me with this, or at least provide me with a justifiable reason to follow which direction I finally choose.

- this emoticon is so ill equipped to adequately illustrate my level of confusion on this issue . . .

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett

Bookwyrm
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:03:38  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know my brother gets irritated if people read stuff meant for him before it's given. Yet I don't care myself. And I don't know how the Sage would care.

In fact, I think you're probably the most qualified person to answer your own question. Comforting, eh?

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:11:09  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think he would mind, afterall it's Realmslore . . .

But, is that reason enough?.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:16:49  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a solution for you Lady Kazandra! First let me say that Sage seems the type of guy who would really love that you are interested in the same things that he is (ex Forgotten Realms ) So I think he would be fine with you opening the package and using it. But here is my idea! After reading throug it wrap it up yourself special for him for when he gets back home.
A. He understands you wanting to open it and peruse the knowledge within
B. He will still be surprised and pleased that you took the time and effort to re-wrap it especially for him to open it anew
Hope you like my idea
My copy of the Players Guide to Faerun just arrived today as well! So far I'm lovin' it

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:31:21  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

I don't think he would mind, afterall it's Realmslore . . .

But, is that reason enough?.




I live by three simple rules:

1. There is no whining in Cataloging.

2. All Realms material even if owned by someone else is fare game to be examined at my discretion.

3. And keep the Vigodas caged.

No way anyone here will get the last rule, but the second one applies to your dilemma Lady Kazandra.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:31:35  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course, I suppose that one thing you'll have to consider is "Once he gets his hands on it . . . how long until he actually lets go?"

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:42:40  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually Bookwyrm, I'd already considered the possibility of what you just said, since it could be a while . . .

I think I like Wood Elf's suggestion though, if nothing else, it will provide us both with a laugh .



I'm stumped Sirius . . .

The only reference I could find was to a band called Abe and the Vigodas. What's the meaning behind your third rule?.

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  06:54:06  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't just shove it back in the delivery box and tape it up. Wrap it up special yourself with present paper or even funny-paper or whatever if your going for a laugh Still I think it would mean more that way so he would know that you understand how special it is to him you know? I'm glad you liked my idea :)

PS did you sign up at the Secrets of the Marches Yahoo Groups site yet? Just checking I can't wait to see what kind of character you come up with

~Lee N.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  07:13:45  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, wouldn't that be funny if you spilled something all over it, duct taped the sourcebook, then threw it in the box. Imagine the Sage's face...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  07:24:37  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Tis better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" as I have once heard. But enough of making sense... You can always say you were checking for wards placed upon the tome by evil wizards ... The Sage would understand


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  07:25:21  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
::The Bookwyrm imagines this scene, then quickly wishes he hadn't.::

That's not a pretty picture, Shadowlord.

Besides, wait'll Alaundo hears you just proposed deliberately disfiguring a Tome of the Realms!

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  07:49:54  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, I wouldn't think it to be pretty.

Ah, Bookwyrm, no need to tell Alaundo. I'm sure we could work something out...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Alaundo
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  09:20:27  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BOOM!

::door swings open, banging heavily against the wall::

THOU SHALT NOT DEFACE TOMES OF REALMSLORE

As to your dilemma, Lady Kazandra....i'm sure The Sage would be more than happy that you opened the tome in his absence and shared your thoughts and knowledge with us all herein. Chop chop, no time to waste.


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Edited by - Alaundo on 20 Apr 2004 09:21:16
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  09:26:41  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess if Alaundo considers it your duty, Lady Kazandra, I suppose you've no choice but to force yourself to open it and drink in the contents.


Hmm . . . a scroll from Alaundo that doesn't start with "Well Met" . . . how unusual.

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Sarta
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  09:50:17  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My suggestion:

1. Open it, read it, try not to be dissapointed.
2. Wrap it up nicely as if it were a gift. Hide this.
3. Take the original box/packaging it came in and fill this with broken glass. Repackage it.
4. Present the original box/package and explain that you are afraid it was damaged, while shaking it.
5. Try not to laugh.
6. Before he gets too upset, present him with the gift-wrapped version.

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  10:58:37  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I've opened the package . . . Afterall, who can argue with the wise Alaundo . . .

I'm sure I've have some opinions on the content given sufficient time to read through it.

Thank you all, for your suggestions. Let's just hope the Sage's wrath is easier to bear, than the wise Alaundo's .

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 20 Apr 2004 :  16:34:36  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Hmm . . . a scroll from Alaundo that doesn't start with "Well Met" . . . how unusual.


Indeed, it seems that Realmslore jests bring out a whole new side of Alaundo...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

Edited by - Shadowlord on 20 Apr 2004 16:35:34
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