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Wenin
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  07:26:12  Show Profile Send Wenin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Is there an official document that the royals in england give to people when they bestow a title? I'd like to know what its called to try and find a copy.

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George Krashos
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Australia
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  11:51:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I understand it, heralds in England kept their own records (attached as they were to specific nobles and royal families) and that the documentary proof of the right to arms was called a "pedigree", usually involving a brief genealogy and a drawing of the relevant coat of arms applicable to an individual. If there was any doubt on a person's right to bear arms, then heralds were empowered to conduct what was called a "visitation" to ascertain whether someone had assumed arms without due cause. The pedigree was kept as a record by the relevant herald as proof of the right to have arms.

They looked something like this: http://www.robertsewell.ca/dennefromberry.html

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Edited by - George Krashos on 24 Feb 2019 11:53:41
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  14:43:59  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The accession of a new monarch is traditionally officiated by the Church and witnessed by the titled nobility (along with the media). There's the inauguration (swearing of oaths) and anointment (religious sanctions and blessings) and enthronement (symbolic acceptance of throne, crown, and regalia) ... but there's no "legal deed to the crown" that I know of.

Henry I issued the Coronation Charter (Charter of Liberties) upon taking the crown - it bound the monarch to some laws which assured certain rights and protections for his subjects, it was a "legal agreement" to curb the abuses of power enjoyed by previous monarchs. While such proclamations are not strictly required it became fashionable (and now traditional) for new monarchs to issue/support some sort of significant new law(s) as part of the ceremony.

Royals (all nobility) have a variety of signets and heraldic devices - including personal signatures, family/house crests, Royal signs and Royal seals, etc ... basically a whole bunch of different legal signatures for performing the duties of different stations and offices. I imagine most of these are dull paraphernalia - symbolic seals on (Royal) state documents and (Royal) patents, etc - but sometimes a monarch can "remind" someone of their place or assert the (in)formality of the relationship by deliberately throwing around titles with different specific weights.

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ElfBane
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USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  14:54:27  Show Profile Send ElfBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No pedigree is required for an INITIAL bestowment of a title. The document/documents are called Letters Patent.
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Wenin
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Posted - 24 Feb 2019 :  20:11:33  Show Profile Send Wenin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So much good info. Thank you Great Scribes!

Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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