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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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 Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 03:51:58
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Someone at the following thread on ENWorld http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85370 posted this information from the RPGA regarding the upcoming Complete Divine product.
Here are the prestige classes in Complete Divine:
Church Inquisitor
Consecrated Harrier
Contemplative
Divine Crusader
Divine Oracle
Geomancer
Holy Liberator
Hospitaler
Pious Templar
Radiant Servant of Pelor
Rainbow Servant
Sacred Excorcist
Sacred Fist
Seeker of the Misty Isle
Shining Blade of Heironous
Temple Raider of Olidammara
Void Disciple
War Priest
Black Flame Zealot
Entropomancer
Blighter
Evangelist
Ur-Priest
Here are the Feats in Complete Divine:
Arcane Disciple
Augment Healing
Boars Ferocity
Cheetahs Speed
Consecrate Spell
Disciple of the Sun
Divine Metamagic
Divine Spellpower
Domain Focus
Domain Spontaneity
Eagles Wings
Elemental Healing
Elemental Spiting
Elephants Hide
Empower Turning
Extra Wild Shape
Fast Wild Shape
Glorious Weapons
Gzillys Claws
Improved Smiting
Lions Pounce
Oaken Resillence
Practiced Spellcaster
Profane Boost
Quickened Turning
Rapid Spell
Reach Spell
Sacred Boost
Sacred Healing
Serpents Venom
Spell Focus (chaos, evil, good, law)
Spontaneous Healer
Spontaneous Summoner
Spontaneous Wounder
Swim Like a Fish
Transdimensional Spell
True Believer
Wolverines Rage
Sanctify Relic
Corrupt Spell
Pious Defense
Pious Soul
Pious Spellsurge
Here are the spells in Complete Divine:
Anger of the Noonday Sun
Awaken, Mass
Bane Bow
Beast Claws
Beget Bogun
Bestow Curse, Greater
Binding Winds
Blast of Force
Blessed Aim
Blessing of Bahamut
Body of the Sun
Bolt of Glory
Bolts of Bedevilment
Bottle of Smoke
Brain Spider
Brambles
Briar Web
Brilliant Aura
Camouflage
Camouflage, Mass
Castigate
Chain of Eyes
Cloudburst
Cloudwalkers
Cometfall
Contagious Touch
Creeping Cold
Creeping Cold, Greater
Crown of Glory
Crumble
Curse of Ill Fortune
Curse of Lycanthropy
Dance of the Unicorn
Death Pact
Decomposition
Deific Vengeance
Detect Favored Enemy
Divine Agility
Divine Sacrifice
Doomtide
Dragon Breath
Dream Sight
Energy Vortex
Enveloping Cocoon
Fire Wings
Fires of Purity
Flame of Faith
Forestfold
Golden Barding
Hawkeye
Implacable Pursuer
Improved Blink
Infestation of Maggots
Langour
Last Breath
Maddening Scream
Maelstrom
Mark of the Hunter
Miasma
Monstrous Thrall
Murderous Mist
Nature's Avatar
Nature's Favor
Naturewatch
Nimbus of Light
Obedient Avalanche
Omen of Peril
Otyugh Swarm
Pavilion of Grandeur
Phantasmal Decoy
Phantasmal Disorientation
Phantom Bear
Phantom Stag
Phantom Wolf
Plague of Rats
Poison Thorns
Poison Vines
Probe Thoughts
Quill Blast
Recitation
Regenerate Circle
Regenerate Critical Wounds
Regenerate Light Wounds
Regenerate Ring
Regenerate Serious Wounds
Rejuvenation Cocoon
Renewal Pact
Resurgence
Resurgence, Mass
Revenance
Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
Sacred Haven
Sandblast
Scent
Scourge
Shadow Landscape
Slime Wave
Spell Resistance, Mass
Spikes
Spiritual Chariot
Stalwart Pact
Standing Wave
Storm of Elemental Fury
Storm Tower
Stormrage
Subvert Planar Essence
Telepathic Bond, Lesser
Tidal Surge
Tortoise Shell
Touch of Madness
Traveler's Mount
True Creation
True Domination
Unbinding
Unyielding Roots
Visage of the Deity
Visage of the Deity, Greater
Visage of the Deity, Lesser
Waterspout
Wave of Grief
Weapon of the Deity
Weather Eye
Whirlwind, Greater
Winged Mount
Wood Wose
Wrack
Zeal
Zealot Pact
The new Core Classes are:
Favored Soul
Shugenja
Spirit Shaman
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 04:11:35
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Hmm, the PrC that caught my eye was the Black Flame Zealot.  Any more information on that, Sirius? |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 04:43:46
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Hmmmn . . . interesting, although looking over some of the PrCs I can't help but think that some of them sound a little redundant. I think we may be seeing the 'Well of Prestige Classes' starting to run dry.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 05:25:29
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Never! Ever will WotC continue to spray out useless material!  It's only a matter of time before the PrC's become so useless that it has no connection to the Realms whatsoever.  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 05:33:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Hmmmn . . . interesting, although looking over some of the PrCs I can't help but think that some of them sound a little redundant. I think we may be seeing the 'Well of Prestige Classes' starting to run dry.
Without even looking at them, which gives away my interest in the product, I'm sure one or more of them came from a previously published items in 3.0 edition and now have simply been reworked to 3.5 edition.
Run out of Prestige Classes? I think you just spoke blasphemy to all the munch and crunchers out there Lady Kazandra.
Rest assured, if such a tragedy ever did occur for WOTC, I'm sure we'd see fourth edition come out in a matter of months. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 05:38:27
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Rest assured, if such a tragedy ever did occur for WOTC, I'm sure we'd see fourth edition come out in a matter of months.
Speak not such foul words, Sirius!  I'm still recovering from the April Fools joke... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 06:30:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Hmmmn . . . interesting, although looking over some of the PrCs I can't help but think that some of them sound a little redundant. I think we may be seeing the 'Well of Prestige Classes' starting to run dry.
It will never run dry... Look how many kits were cranked out during 2nd edition...  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 07:12:47
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| Well, at least they're making simpler ones, with just three or five levels. I rather like those, for some reason. Maybe they just take up less room. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 07:37:42
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Well, thats one way of looking at it, I suppose.  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 07:45:11
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Well, if you recall, I was more than a bit irritated at how, in The Complete Warrior, the writers kept repeating information. Such as, in their examples, what "Elf Traits" are (just say "see the PHB for details! Don't keep repeating and wasting space!), what the class features did (you just said that!), etc, etc, sic ad nauseum. 
I doubt they're changing it for The Complete Divine. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:13:30
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Yes, that is rather sad...
However, I doubt I'll even be purchasing this tome, as my friend probably will, and he often leaves most of his D&D materials at my house... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:18:39
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| Same here, though my reason is because I don't think I'll be playing any divine classes any time soon. Unless, of course, Amazon offers another 60% off deal. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:21:35
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| Well, I normally get all my D&D sourcebooks from Barnes and Nobles. Suprisingly, unlike other B&N stores, they get almost every sourcebook on time, and in excellent condition. It took me quite a bit longer to acquire Van Richten's Guide to the Shadowfey, which I yelled at the store manager long and hard about... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:26:47
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I'll be picking it up when it comes out. We have a good local gaming shop that has been around for 15+ years. She gets in all new releases on the Friday following release. I pay full retail there, but consider it worth the expense. I'm happy to do my part in keeping this shop open.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:27:03
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I've found some previews from the upcoming Complete Divine sourcebook.
There are two, the first of which is a look at the Pious Templar class, while the second preview is a number of feats from Above.
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"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:29:33
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Hmmmn . . . 
There seems to be a problem with those links, please use this one, and scroll down to the previews for Complete Divine.
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"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:29:35
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| Thank you for the "sneak-peeks," Lady Kazandra. This just further confirms what I just said, and I still don't think I'll buy the sourcebook. I'm just not a very pious person... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
Edited by - Shadowlord on 19 Apr 2004 08:31:48 |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:33:21
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I don't think I'll have that concern, unless of course the Sage doesn't buy a copy. Although, I believe most of the WotC products scheduled for release this year are on his pre-orders list, so I don't have to worry .
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"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:33:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord
Hmm, the PrC that caught my eye was the Black Flame Zealot. Any more information on that, Sirius?
Yep weve been robbed again
Red Wizards
Thayan Knights
Purple Dragon Knights
Dracolichs
and now Black Flame Zealot
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Edited by - Dargoth on 19 Apr 2004 08:37:37 |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:34:30
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| Heh, of course... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 08:54:18
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Pious Templar
Has . . . potential. But needs work. Not sure I like the "mettle" ability -- I mean, both Fortitude and Will saves? Sure, there are a lot more Reflex saves made for partial effects than not, but it still seems excessive.
Arcane Diciple
Surprisingly balanced. I might have to consider this feat if I ever make another wizard character with a high wisdom score.
Eagle's Wings
Almost pointless. Sure, you remain humanoid, and so can do things only possible in humanoid form, but I think most players with druid characters won't be considering this one.
Glorious Weapons
Well . . . maybe. I doubt it, though.
Reach Spell
Deja vu, anyone?
To be fair, as I was trying to be when reviewing The Complete Warrior, people coming in after the switch to 3.5e won't have the old lists of feats, not unless they pick up a copy of what would be "outdated" material. Still, it's hardly the sort of thing to put in a preview.
True Believer
This one's okay, even though I have the feeling that it was only made as a prerequisite for the Pious Templar. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 09:16:14
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Since Complete Divine will soon be released next month, does anyone have any information on which class book is next?. I'd heard it was Complete Arcane, but I don't completely trust the source I received this information from.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 09:46:57
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| I guess there's enough for a Complete Rogue . . . . But other than that, what else could there be? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 09:52:30
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| I wonder if theres a Divine Discple feat that lets Clerics cast the spells in a Domain as general spells? |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 10:05:14
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
I guess there's enough for a Complete Rogue . . . . But other than that, what else could there be?
You could be right, although I think it is to be titled Complete Stealth, handling the shadier side of such classes as the Rogue, Ranger and Bard. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 10:06:34
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| I believe there may be one in 3e. However, if you look at the feat list, you'll see "Domain Spontineity." That sounds like a feat that allows a cleric to convert a normal spell into a domain spell, like it were a cure or inflict. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 14:43:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
I guess there's enough for a Complete Rogue . . . . But other than that, what else could there be?
You could be right, although I think it is to be titled Complete Stealth, handling the shadier side of such classes as the Rogue, Ranger and Bard.
If I recall, didn't they already make a product along those lines titled Song and Silence? |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 16:14:19
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Indeed . . .
But could not the same also be said of both Complete Warrior and Complete Divine, and their associate splatbooks, Sword and Fist and Defenders of the Faith?.
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"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 16:18:45
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| Well, that is true... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 23:28:40
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| Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder what reason I have to buy the rest of this series except to cut down on the number of books in my bag... |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2004 : 04:34:39
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| Another thing will there be a Feat that allows a Cleric to have a Familar (After all if where giving Wizards Domain spells...) |
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