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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 May 2018 : 17:03:49
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Sages, I am looking for lore involving the Moonshaes in general, and Gwynneth in particular. Was there ever a Moonshaes banner/flag? Was there a coat-of-arms that represented the High Kingdom? And any lore on the individual Heraldry of the Moonshaes would be nice.
Thank you in advance, honored Maesters and ArchMaesters.
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2018 : 18:38:47
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I PM'd you my email. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2018 : 21:40:42
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There was a 2E sourcebook on the Moonshaes; I assume you're familiar with it?
There was also an adventure module with a lot of extra Moonshae material, Halls of the High King. |
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2018 : 09:32:20
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Wooly,do you have any opinions on the various FR novels that are Moonshaes related? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2018 : 09:34:51
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quote: Originally posted by ElfBane
Wooly,do you have any opinions on the various FR novels that are Moonshaes related?
I wasn't a fan of the first Moonshae trilogy, though the second is pretty good.
My opinion on that first trilogy, though, puts me in a minority, here. It's not the first time my opinion of novels has diverged from the general consensus, here. My opinion is not to be used as a reliable guide. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 07 May 2018 09:37:18 |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2018 : 11:25:53
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My opinion is that the first trilogy is very good... But you must consider it was the first Realms novel, and that the Moonshaes are almost a world apart from the rest of the Realms (which they are, since they were shoehorned into the Realms). As for my personal opinion, it is better than the second trilogy, so if Wooly is right, I'm with the majority, here. |
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2018 : 19:14:41
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Dazzlerdal, in FRAD #8, the article "The Dynasties of the Ffolk" on pg.25; are those dynasties all canon? Thanx. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2018 : 22:43:02
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I wasn't a huge fan of the Moonshae books, myself, though that was mainly the writing style. I do recommend them though if you are looking for info on the Moonshae Isles. There is a 4e book, Rose of Sarifel, but I would avoid that one. It's very strange, and I wouldn't really consider it canon, even though it was set in FR. |
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BenN
Senior Scribe
Japan
382 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2018 : 01:03:02
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quote: Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I wasn't a huge fan of the Moonshae books, myself, though that was mainly the writing style. I do recommend them though if you are looking for info on the Moonshae Isles. There is a 4e book, Rose of Sarifel, but I would avoid that one. It's very strange, and I wouldn't really consider it canon, even though it was set in FR.
I liked both series of Moonshae books, mostly for the locale descriptions & background lore; compared to later FR novels, the characterization was pretty poor.
I agree with you 100% about Rose of Sarifal; that is far away the worst FR novel that I've read.
I'd like to see new novels set in the Moonshaes; there are some interesting 5e updates mentioned in the SCAG which could be good starting plot points. I've been developing a story set in Gwynneth and Alaron, but its a question of getting around to actually writing it. |
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2018 : 10:55:25
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Dazzerdal, In the FRAD#8 you have this;
Hugh Dynasty of Corwell Callidyrr: Born 161 DR, Reigned 177/193, Son of Ebenfar nobility; united the kingdom of Corwell following civil war; slain by trolls. HK Cymrych: Born 171 DR, Reigned 193/250*, First son of Callidyrr; died of wounds suffered years earlier in combat against Kazgoroth. Christopher Riker: [R] Born 174 DR, Regent [201/250], Champion of Cymrych Hugh; named regent of Corwell in 201; died in 256. Cedric Riker: [R] Born 198 DR, Regent [250/272], Son of Regent Christopher Riker of Cantrev Koart.
It shows Callidyrr as born in 161, and siring Cymrych 171. While not completely impossible for this to happen, I think maybe you should back up Callidyrrs birth by 5 or 10 years. Just a suggestion.
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2018 : 17:16:51
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quote: Originally posted by ElfBane
Was there ever a Moonshaes banner/flag? Was there a coat-of-arms that represented the High Kingdom? And any lore on the individual Heraldry of the Moonshaes would be nice.
The symbol of the unified kingdoms of the Ffolk is a black banner emblazoned with a silver bear, "the Great Bear".
Each noble house also has their own standard. The Kendrick house, for example, is symbolized by a wolf's head banner "The Lone Wolf". |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2018 : 18:16:16
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quote: Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I wasn't a huge fan of the Moonshae books, myself, though that was mainly the writing style.
-It's been a long, long time, but I remember not really liking it too much either because it felt too "basic" (and, admittedly, when I read it in like 2005 or whenever, like 20 years of D&D had passed, so a lot had changed). It was like a perfectly formed basic D&D party, which has always bugged me, even in other novels. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2018 : 14:54:24
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Seeker ElfBane,
Dungeon #196 had, "Backdrop: Moonshae Isles" you could check into.
I felt that the Moonshae's were a nice reprieve from the hustle and bustle of the rest of the Realms. For example, when you look at the levels of the characters involved in the novels (and creatures), they were surprisingly average. Which was frankly nice. Everything wasn't some insanely powerful thing on a Karsus level.
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quote: Originally posted by ElfBane
Sages, I am looking for lore involving the Moonshaes in general, and Gwynneth in particular. Was there ever a Moonshaes banner/flag? Was there a coat-of-arms that represented the High Kingdom? And any lore on the individual Heraldry of the Moonshaes would be nice.
Thank you in advance, honored Maesters and ArchMaesters.
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