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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 28 Feb 2018 : 05:37:26
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I'm trying to decipher the words from elvish to English.
I want to write "Book of Shadow Mastery"
Or tel'kiira of shadow mastery.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 28 Feb 2018 : 17:50:26
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Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
I'm trying to decipher the words from elvish to English.
I want to write "Book of Shadow Mastery"
Or tel'kiira of shadow mastery.
Shadow is "n'vae" (i.e. not light). Ed has told me that book is "antath". I don't have a word for "mastery". Let's use a suitably sounding word: how about: "rilae" - with "rilahr" being master). Oh, and I use "os" for of.
So "book of shadow mastery" might be "antathos rilan'vae" or "anatathos n'vaerilae" or, well, you get the idea. Same goes with a the gem of shadow mastery. Just substitute "tel'kiira" for "antathos".
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
Edited by - George Krashos on 28 Feb 2018 23:15:26 |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2018 : 19:26:45
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Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
I'm trying to decipher the words from elvish to English.
I want to write "Book of Shadow Mastery"
Or tel'kiira of shadow mastery.
Shadow is "n'vae" (i.e. not light). Ed has told me that book is "antath". I don't have a word for "mastery". Let's use a suitably sounding word: how about: "rilae" - with "rilahr" being master). Oh, and I use "os" for of.
So "book of shadow mastery" might be "antathos rilan'vae" or "anatathos n'vaerilae" or, well, you get the idea. Same goes with a the gem of shaow mastery. Just substitute "tel'kiira" for "anthathos".
-- George Krashos
Thank you so very much Krashos. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2018 : 23:17:05
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You are welcome.
I did do a further edit which doesn't appear to have gone through.
You would substitute "kiir" (gem) instead of "tel'kiira" as the latter is a lore gem and a very different thing to a normal gem stone, even if it was enspelled.
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2018 : 20:52:54
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Originally posted by George Krashos
You are welcome.
I did do a further edit which doesn't appear to have gone through.
You would substitute "kiir" (gem) instead of "tel'kiira" as the latter is a lore gem and a very different thing to a normal gem stone, even if it was enspelled.
-- George Krashos
Actually, I am going for a High Lore gem, made in the very ancient elven city of Sharlarion by the High priest of Erevan in that city. So I'm thinking of calling it Rilan'vae Selu-Kiira. Does that work?? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2018 : 07:33:32
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Yeah sure. Of course, if it is something unique you might actually give it a name - which doesn't necessarily need to be translatable. Like "the Atharamon, the Shadow Gem of Sharlarion" or somesuch.
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Mar 2018 : 19:09:06
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There's "Elven Dictionary", but it has no sources marked (some entries certainly come from Ed's answers, others may be from Dragon, who knows?) and falls under the single most fangirled-upon subject in the whole genre of fantasy, so the quality of each specific entry is unknown.
"Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms" has sources, but with little Elvish and the collection was not updated much. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2018 : 02:21:20
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| -It's all canon (novels, sourcebooks, WotC online articles, author threads) or derived from extrapolating specific words from canon phrases, but it's also way out of date; The WotC forum one was a little more recent (but that's dead), and the one here is probably about ten years or so out of date. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
Edited by - Lord Karsus on 10 Mar 2018 02:22:26 |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2018 : 05:25:58
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The problem with the Elvish tongue in the Realms is that you have three prime sources: the Cormanthyr/Fall of Myth Drannor sourcebooks by Steven Schend, Ed's lore and material from the fiction line. Some of the fiction material is very Earth-derivative (such as the work of Mark Sehestedt - Frostfell, etc: he used American Indian languages as his baseline; go figure ... ) while the stuff of Rich Baker (Last Mythal series) and Keith Strohm (Bladesinger) isn't too difficult to blend in. It's not what I would describe as a cohesive whole though.
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2018 : 06:05:14
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| -All of the Lythari words and phrases from Mark Sehestedt's stuff, I always denoted as "Eastern Lythari", distinct from the regular dialect of Lythari and the rest of Elven given that they were presented as a completely distinct culture, having very little connection to Elves elsewhere. Same with the eastern Elves of al-Qahera, but I really don't remember if any terminology was shared in that book, now that I think about it. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
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Elvish dictionary in alphabetical order?
