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Irennan
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Posted - 29 Sep 2017 :  14:40:52  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
For those of you who are interested, Ed has been sharing a few interesting background articles about the Realms: you can find them here: http://realms.theedgreenwoodgroup.com/50years/

If you want to ask him questions about the Realms, then this is the link: http://realms.theedgreenwoodgroup.com/realms-inquiries/

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Artemas Entreri
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Cool, thanks for sharing.

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TBeholder
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To me it shows as having SSL Server Certificate issued to a different site*. Which would be a minor problem if it didn't rely on javascript so much.

(*) which also seems to be a subdomain so vast that practically there's no more point in giving a certificate to it than to "*.com" in the first place.

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Daviot
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In a (possibly?) related issue, I noticed that Ed's "Onder Librum" site hasn't been accessible for me recently. Anyone been having similar issues?

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froglegg
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Thanks for the info.




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sfdragon
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quote:
Originally posted by Daviot

In a (possibly?) related issue, I noticed that Ed's "Onder Librum" site hasn't been accessible for me recently. Anyone been having similar issues?



same. it is a no go for me

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Matt James
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Posted - 18 Oct 2017 :  17:20:02  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love Ed and how he can make you feel good, even about a terrible prospectus.

http://realms.theedgreenwoodgroup.com/how-to-get-your-forgotten-realms-novel-published/

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sfdragon
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I love Ed and how he can make you feel good, even about a terrible prospectus.

http://realms.theedgreenwoodgroup.com/how-to-get-your-forgotten-realms-novel-published/





my only gripe about something eh wrote in that was that you cant use any creature used in a monster manual.

you are capable of using a red dragon without issue, you can use a wood elf without issue, what you cant use is a mindflayer, that has issues or atleast is how I see it

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sleyvas
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Posted - 20 Oct 2017 :  00:33:20  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I love Ed and how he can make you feel good, even about a terrible prospectus.

http://realms.theedgreenwoodgroup.com/how-to-get-your-forgotten-realms-novel-published/





my only gripe about something eh wrote in that was that you cant use any creature used in a monster manual.

you are capable of using a red dragon without issue, you can use a wood elf without issue, what you cant use is a mindflayer, that has issues or atleast is how I see it




and yet, I've seen what are effectively mind flayers on doctor who. Of course, you'd have to call it something else though. What surprises me is things like I've seen gnolls in games like everquest, etc... Was gnoll an actual monster PRIOR to D&D?

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Markustay
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Yes, most of the monsters in the original MM are from mythology and folklore.

I was going to do my own version of Illithids for PF/Golarion (they have contests for that sort of thing, and you can get published), but then I decided I wasn't really all that interested in creating lore for Pathfinder. My version had a couple of unique quirks that kept them just different enough so as not to be copyright infringement. I also thought about Beholders, and I gathered together everyplace I ever seen similar creatures outside of D&D, just in case I got challenged, in which case I was ready to prove those things were already in the 'public domain'.

Ood, Davy Jones, Cthulhu, etc... its actually an old trope. So are 'giant floating eyeballs'. It would be pretty easy to challenge them on it - they should have been more energetic about going after people right from the beginning.

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idilippy
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The way I read it Ed wasn't saying you can't use anything in a MM. It seemed like he was saying that making the world your own will include showing the reader how it works, and includes things like your own magic and dragons and monsters.

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And if you do that job right, it not only won’t be a Realms book, it’ll be YOUR book, and probably BETTER than its incarnation as a Realms book, because it can’t depend on a reader knowing anything about what is now your own new fantasy setting, or how magic works, or the details of monsters. You’ll have to SHOW the reader, in the revised text of the novel, why they should care about this character or love that kingdom, and what YOUR dragons (and ugly-wugs, and other monsters NOT found in any Monster Manual) can do.
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Markustay
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Posted - 20 Oct 2017 :  03:11:17  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In other words, "show some originality".

Ed tends to sugar-coat things. I have no qualms about pissing people off.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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sfdragon
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Posted - 20 Oct 2017 :  03:34:17  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
neither do I.

I never saw taht dr. who episode.

which episode and season.

and it takes alot to be a mind flayer, it is the abilities as much as its looks. even star wars has a species that could pass for an illithid in appearance


be an original and nothing less.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 20 Oct 2017 :  11:53:57  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

neither do I.

I never saw taht dr. who episode.

which episode and season.

and it takes alot to be a mind flayer, it is the abilities as much as its looks. even star wars has a species that could pass for an illithid in appearance


be an original and nothing less.



Not much was done with it, but it was in some episode that the doctor found himself outside of the universe. I think maybe he had to rebuild his TARDIS. Its been probably 6-8 years since I saw it and it was a rerun then. I'm not a big WHO fan, but I catch it on occasion. That being said, as Markustay said, a lot of stuff has been copied. The big thing comes down to names, which is why I was wondering if the name of "gnoll" was actually from something. For instance, I know goblin, hobgoblin, kobold, ogre, giant, troll, they're screwed... but bugbear... I think that's their own original name. Quaggoth... maybe original?

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idilippy
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Posted - 20 Oct 2017 :  15:13:54  Show Profile Send idilippy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wikipedia (that bastion of knowledge which is irrefutable! Never wrong, ever!) says:
quote:
The creature described as the gnole first appeared in 1912, in Lord Dunsany's 1912 story "How Nuth Would Have Practised His Art upon the Gnoles"


That's all I've got on Gnolls.
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sfdragon
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Posted - 21 Oct 2017 :  03:57:00  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
only until otherwise.

but from another scroll from the library that is wikipedia

bugbears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugbear
boggart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggart

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Oct 2017 :  04:09:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by idilippy

Wikipedia (that bastion of knowledge which is irrefutable! Never wrong, ever!) says:
quote:
The creature described as the gnole first appeared in 1912, in Lord Dunsany's 1912 story "How Nuth Would Have Practised His Art upon the Gnoles"


That's all I've got on Gnolls.



There was a grassy gnoll in Dallas in 1963. Any conspiracy theory website should have a lot of info on it.

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Markustay
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Posted - 21 Oct 2017 :  06:12:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

neither do I.

I never saw taht dr. who episode.

which episode and season.

and it takes alot to be a mind flayer, it is the abilities as much as its looks. even star wars has a species that could pass for an illithid in appearance.
They were called 'The Ood', and they had psionic abilities (sound familiar yet?), and they were so popular they were brought back for several episodes. They went from being a very boring 'servant race' to something very interesting by the end.

In my version, I actually have it where all aberrations are/were Illithids - they are just different end-results in a very unique, biological caste system. For example, what happens when one of those tadpole-thingies continues to grow, but never finds a host? They become an Aboleth! (or rather, something VERY similar to Aboleth).

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 21 Oct 2017 :  13:14:46  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They even had a "main unit" that is a big old brain, lol.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 21 Oct 2017 :  14:17:24  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

only until otherwise.

but from another scroll from the library that is wikipedia

bugbears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugbear
boggart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggart




I stand corrected... even that name seems to be free to use.

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sfdragon
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my version of a bugbear

a huge bear like creature with functioning insectoid wings and 6 legs. and its favorite meal are the meat of elves and dwarves...( well the bullet likes halfling meat and doesnt like elf or dwarf meat)


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