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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 14:28:42
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One is called Moa and is liked to snakes or Coutls, LG, and another Wongo linked to monkeys and is CE.
Mod edit: Corrected typo in Subject, so this discussion could be more readily found on a search. 
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 01 Jul 2017 13:47:15
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1628 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 19:08:50
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"The Tomb of Annihilation is a "god tomb" and its true name is The Tomb of Nine Gods. It's a multi-level dungeon featuring lots of traps and servants of Acererak. One room has corpses hanging by their feet over pools of blood. The Tomb is maintained by creatures, including masked Tomb Dwarves.
There's a player handout for a puzzle
There is a grid of nine animals that correspond to the Nine Gods and the nine alignments. Top row, left to right: Snake (or Coatl), Froghemoth, Displacer Beast. Middle row, left to right: Rabbit, Flail Snail, and thing that looked like a plant/tiger. Bottom row, left to right: Stork, ?????, and Monkey. The snake represents Lawful Good and the God Moa. The monkey represents Chaotic Evil and the god Wongo.
More images of locations: the aarakocra establishment Kir Sabal (sp?). The floating earth mote the Heart of Ubtao. Jakaka (?) Anchorage, a pirate hideout. Nangalore, a palace where a medusa lives. Wyrmheart Mine." |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 19:10:52
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| I suspect the "plant tiger" thing is actually a Kamadan, a large Leopard like creature with 3 snakes coming from each shoulder. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1628 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 19:11:44
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
Please tell me you are making this up
Nope, I'm not making it up. I'm curious who these Gods are. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3811 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 19:21:27
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| Wow, they're including Dragonbait and Artus Cimber. Now I'm curious how they'll be implemented, and I'm excitied to see if other characters of old will be reappearing in future modules. |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3811 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 21:37:38
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
I lack the words. Wongo the monkey god 
I don't care about what they come up with anymore, or their plot devices. I've stopped caring about that part of the Realms, I'm just like "whatever" if it's something quite random like this, and I'm fine with it if it helps returning the Realms as close as possible to their previous state. I'm enjoying their use of old characters and the return of names like Khelben and Halaster, because new people will get to know them, and they will live on rather than collect dust in the past. I hope that more and more of what makes the Realms so varied and alive will start making not just a comeback (because it already was all restored), but an actual comeback under the spotlight.
As for the rest, the metaplot of the Realms is just cheap now, I only see it as a tool to restore what was lost. I will keep watching what they do for the reason that I mentioned above |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Starshade
Learned Scribe
Norway
279 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2017 : 23:25:27
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
I lack the words. Wongo the monkey god
I'd personally would work more on the name, if it's meant to be africanish, maybe mw'ongo? (the ' as an click consonant). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2017 : 04:39:45
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Nanny Pu'pu is a Chultan witch who worships dark powers. The name was a placeholder at first, but they kept it because players 13 and under loved it.
Just... No.  |
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see
Learned Scribe
235 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2017 : 05:06:50
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| Cool, beast cult gods just like in the original Down-to-Earth Divinity, rather than consolidated in as aspects of name-brand gods. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2017 : 07:10:56
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So many cool lore-deep options they could have had. Why not use the Bara?
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2017 : 12:55:54
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Originally posted by George Krashos
So many cool lore-deep options they could have had. Why not use the Bara?
-- George Krashos
They mentioned the Bara in the D&D podcast during a recent "Lore you should know" segment. Perhaps they'll tie them in, but leave them as a resource the players can tap into if they play their cards right?
I'm excited about the map mentioned. The character names I'm less than enthused about. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
Edited by - Delwa on 19 Jun 2017 12:56:14 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2017 : 14:24:22
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| My decision to return to 1356 DR is sounding better and better to me. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Starshade
Learned Scribe
Norway
279 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 09:20:17
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Pu'pu? Like in the pu pu platter? the chinese dish? [O.o]
I doubt there's much depth behind these "African" names, but the problem is, if you mimic African names, you might say something. Especially since Bantu languages usually got noun groups where you have 10-20 noun classes which starts with letters as m (mw), w, m, mi, ji, ma, ki, wi, etc. wongo might be plural of mongo (no meaning), or corrupt version of mungu (god, now usually the Christian one), etc. If you alter the first letter, you end up with a different noun group, and possibly either an error, or say something different. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 10:11:45
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Originally posted by Starshade
Pu'pu? Like in the pu pu platter? the chinese dish? [O.o]
One can only hope that's what they had in mind... But in the US, "poo poo" is a very juvenile way to refer to either having a bowel movement or the results of one. It's the type of thing a small child might say. Alternatives are "poo" and "poop."
With them saying it was popular among those younger than 13, and knowing it was likely Americans they were testing with, I fear the scatological reference was the more likely intent. |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1155 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 12:19:04
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| They should've just consulted with James Lowder. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 12:36:42
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
That would have shown a respect for prior lore that has been sadly lacking for a while, with WotC. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 12:43:08
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
That's part of the problem. They did.
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Edit: part of the problem meaning they consulted and possibly ignored him. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
Edited by - Delwa on 20 Jun 2017 12:44:00 |
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KanzenAU
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 13:16:05
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Originally posted by KanzenAU
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Originally posted by Delwa
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
That's part of the problem. They did.
Link
Edit: part of the problem meaning they consulted and possibly ignored him.
What makes you think they ignored him when he said they consulted him and they were respectful of the source material?
Several people here who possibly know better than I think that the problems in the names and such would not be there if Mr. Lowder had been consulted.
My first instinct is to say a novel with talking Wombats isn't a far cry from the names that have been looked down on, but I could be wrong? |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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Varl
Learned Scribe
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 13:18:37
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This is the funniest scroll I've read in a long time. By funny, I mean it in a way that it's so tragic the first thing you do is laugh. When naming things becomes difficult to the point you have to start using names like Pupu, how can anyone take WotC seriously? Perhaps it's phonetic? Pah-pah, as in New Guinea?  |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 15:03:30
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Originally posted by Delwa
quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
That's part of the problem. They did.
Link
Edit: part of the problem meaning they consulted and possibly ignored him.
That should have come up in my Facebook feed. Odd that it did not. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 15:07:09
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
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Originally posted by Delwa
quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
That's part of the problem. They did.
Link
Edit: part of the problem meaning they consulted and possibly ignored him.
That should have come up in my Facebook feed. Odd that it did not.
Facebook is horrible about showing you what you want to see, in my experience. I've missed long distance friend's engagement announcements, book release announcements that I'm keenly interested in, etc. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 17:55:27
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Where is the Dungeon of Annihilation located? 
I've been expecting them to stick the Acererak material down around Chult.
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
They should've just consulted with James Lowder.
They should have consulted ANYONE who knows the lore... including most of the 'fans' on this site. 
MORE 'gods'? REALLY?
I hope this is more of the 'this will fit anywhere' type of thinking, and they'll at least try to make some of this work with past lore (like saying 'Wongo has many names, and is known as..." blah blah blah - that sort of thing).
Personally, I would have went with 'Great Googamooga' for one of my africanesque deities (I've used him - its an expression that came out of Brooklyn NY, so I'm sure no-one else here is familiar with it, but I grew up with it).
'Nanny Pu Pu' 
So they are listening to twelve year olds for design advice? Figures... |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 18:18:37
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| Less is more, more is less. Maybe WotC is Bi-Polar, and is going through a manic phase, only to be followed be a tear everything apart phase... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Cyrinishad
Learned Scribe
300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2017 : 19:37:51
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Cyric has warned all who would listen, that the Realms would be begging for his return from his 1000 year imprisonment!
Free Cyric! Destroy all gods!  |
To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge. -Socrates
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The Tomb of Annihilation is a Tomb for 9 lost Gods
