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Morgan Coldsoul
Acolyte
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 Posted - 10 Apr 2017 : 20:48:29
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Hopefully there are plenty here who remember the old yellow-box starter set. Mine is currently in storage at my parents' house, so I was hoping someone could give me a hand, since I'm not sure when I'll have a good chance to dig it out.
I'm doing a 5th Edition conversion of The Tomb of Damara adventure module that came with that set (the one starring Bonegnasher the ogre and "the great wizard Netheril," lol). I actually still have most of my notes from back when I did a 3.5 update of this same module for an old campaign, but I seem to have misplaced the list of NPCs. :(
Does anyone have a copy of this module close at hand from which you could possibly give me a list of the NPCs of Freedale? I just need their names, honestly, but it would feel better if I could actually call them by what I consider to be their proper names, since the adventure is one with special importance to me and I want to respect that nostalgia when I run it for my group.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2017 : 06:10:10
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Its weird - I don't have this, but I have the map from it, so now I am wondering how the heck I got the map without having the product. 
I guess maybe someone scanned me a copy or some-such... 
I know I DID have a copy of it, back before my house burned, but the computer also burned, so that wouldn't explain how I have the map now. What edition was that? 2e? |
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Morgan Coldsoul
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2017 : 19:10:21
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@slevyas Thanks! I saw that when I went a-Googling, and given it's like $.50, I don't have a problem with throwing money at it, even if it turns out not to be what I'm looking for. I think it is, I just don't know if it has what I want from the original or not. And yeah, it was a starter. First adventure I ever played!
@Markustay Yes, it was 2E/AD&D. The yellow box came with a miniature or abbreviated version of the DMG/MM/PHB to get you going, 3 adventure modules, a two-sided folding map for the first two adventures, and a gray Realms splatbook called The Book of Lairs. The adventures were called "The Tomb of Damara," "The House on Harrow Hill," and "(something something) Undermountain." Ironically, I have TBoL on my shelf, within arm's reach, but I don't have anything else from that set here at my own place, and of course that's the material I need.
It was a weird set because the box had a big picture of the Dragonlance MCs on the back, but all the material inside was Realms stuff, even if a lot of it was kind of a haphazard mishmash—like they were using FR buzzwords, at random, to name stuff but trying to keep it vague so the adventure could be happening anywhere. Very "fantasy realm of Generica" sort of thing. I still love it, though. :P |
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Gary Dallison
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2017 : 19:58:17
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I love it for an entirely different reason - it gives us settlements in Shadowdale, which we so desperately need (because its the ONLY dale without 'other settlements' within it.. at least, map-wise).
I recall reading through the adventures to place them at one point, but like I said, I don't seem to have it anymore (unless the file has some cryptic string of letters and numbers for a name, which does happen on occasion). |
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Morgan Coldsoul
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2017 : 21:23:30
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@dazzlerdal I found a link here:
http://www.nobleknight.com/productdetailsearch.asp_Q_ProductID_E_10438_A_InventoryID_E_0
Just for quick reference. It's the 1996 TSR "Complete Starter Set Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Game." Here's an image of the box art:
http://crystal-cdn3.crystalcommerce.com/photos/879111/large/starter.jpg
@Markustay Yeah, the village was called "Freedale" in the text, but that's along the same lines as calling the local wizard "Netheril" or the king buried in the tomb "Damara." Once you actually know the Realms, it becomes kind of weird in retrospect. But the map that showed the surrounding region did place it some few days' travel north (I think) of Shadowdale, probably to prompt a connection to a famous place so it would be easier for players to learn more about the area and keep adventuring after the modules were played out. Or, so I would guess. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2017 : 03:35:41
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Just fudge the names a bit. Or use the 'uncertain first person' of 'unreliable reporting' - the name of the wizard could have gotten mixed-up with the people who orginally built his tower, etc.
The King could have been Diemaraa, or some such. like that. Honor the source, but don't cleave to it, necessarily. When I do conversions/updates, part of what I strive for is making 'better' than the original, and the easiest way to do that is fix any silliness and 'Realms it up' more.
And 'Freedale' works fine for me, even if it is generic. It stays well within the 'dales' flavor.  |
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Morgan Coldsoul
Acolyte
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Posted - 12 Apr 2017 : 04:06:43
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| Oh, I can totally fudge the wackier names; I'm already calling the village "Delefrae" (an anagram of "Freedale"), and I'll do similarly with the ruins and the local wizard (now a woman called Marizanne). I was just hoping to use the actual names of, for instance, the cleric who runs the temple, or the guy who owns the West Wind Stables, etc. It's the townsfolk, specifically, that I wanted to try and use the original provided names for, is all. Out of nostalgia. :P |
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Morgan Coldsoul
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2017 : 00:36:54
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Okay...
Can you NOT C&P from Anglefire?
I just tried to make a file for that information (and thank you for sharing the link), and it acts like it copies it, but it won't paste into a new document. Any comp-saavy people have any idea why that would be?
Its just pastes some weird jibberish (squigly red lines) into the document instead, where the words should be. |
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Morgan Coldsoul
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2017 : 00:40:46
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| Hmm. I'm not sure. I was able to copy and paste from the webpage directly into a Word document, and it seems to be okay, but... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Apr 2017 : 02:26:52
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Originally posted by Markustay
Okay...
Can you NOT C&P from Anglefire?
I just tried to make a file for that information (and thank you for sharing the link), and it acts like it copies it, but it won't paste into a new document. Any comp-saavy people have any idea why that would be?
Its just pastes some weird jibberish (squigly red lines) into the document instead, where the words should be.
Do a control-A to select all of the text, then change the font color. What's likely happening is it's copying the text in white, which you'd not see on the default white background in Word. The text is there, though, and Word is twigging to it being misspelled.
Alternatively, if you don't mind losing the formatting, copy to Notepad or something similar, first, and then from there to Word.
I had a similar issue, many years ago, before I knew all that much about computers. I was copying some stuff from the BattleTech site and couldn't figure out where my text was. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 13 Apr 2017 : 03:46:50
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LOL. Thanks Wooly - I had a feeling t would be something simple.
I'll try it again in the morning. Its getting late here and I had a very busy day. I'm falling asleep sitting up in my comp chair right now.
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killerasus
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Dec 2017 : 12:19:24
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It first appeared in the First Quest boxed set (not to be confused with the First Quest music CD released earlier), and it wasn't connected to the Realms or other setting (although I recall somewhere being suggested to put it in Karameikos, Mystara). There was also an adventure acting as a tie-in to Spelljammer and the last adventure was to present dungeon crawling style. I didn't know it was reissued in a yellow box. It was a starter set with audio CD suggesting dialogs and interactions through the adventures. There was a similar release for the Mystara setting detailing the kingdom of Karameikos.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7849/introduction-advanced-dungeons-dragons
https://boardgamegeek.com/rpgitem/56515/first-quest
In the First Quest release, the town was just called The Town. Here are the NPCs:
- Archmage Nethril (yeah, no 'e' there)
- Sethel the Scribe
- Farrish the Priest (from The Temple)
- Foxworth the Moneylender
- Gart Stonenose (from The Store)
- Fendrick (from Fendrick's Fine Foods)
- Cordac the Leatherworker
Some NPCs not from the city, but from the adventures: the elf-lord Taran Goldenstar that you sought in the Tomb of Demara, the villain from the House on Harrow Hill was a ghost called Gunter Weiss, the Giff from the Spelljammer-like adventure (Across Wildspace! -- I guess a nod the The Beatles) is Captain Blotomus, Kordak the Evil is a necromancer in Under Mount Dread, and the Duergar priest Axerock from the same adventure.
The sample player characters, on other hand, were iconic: Beldar the Brave, Slinker (I think the image might be from Graymouser), Lordan the Pure, Morganth the Mysterious (using Fizban image), Silverleaf Halfmoon (Tanis Half-elven from Dragonlance), and Delvar Ironfist (our beloved Bruenor Battlehammer).
EDIT: I checked that in the re-release of these adventures in both Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Game (blue box) and the Complete Starting Set Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Game (yellow box) the town was indeed repurposed as Freedale in the Realms. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Dec 2017 : 15:09:27
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Sick Mound sounds interesting. Moander, maybe? |
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