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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 21 Jun 2016 : 22:09:57
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I just thought it would be interesting to talk what we think is going on in the old empires region.
So we have Unther returned from Abeir and the massive implications of that, such as zg we have Mulhorand restored via overthrowing the Imaskari, who have been drive intobthe Plains of Purple Dust and possibly the Feywild and Shadowfell, You've got a condensed Tymanther still, with its largest cities still in tact on the coasts of the Alamber Sea and Ash Lake, you have Akanul, some how reintergrated with Chessenta, which has 1 city ruled by a God called Enthropy and another ruled by a new incarnation of the red dragon god Tzchazzar (bad news for Brimstone, Tzchazzar is likely to hold a grudge for messing with his head in his previous incarnation),
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 22 Jun 2016 : 00:58:21
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| ruined cimbar.... drowned soorenar.... so many dead bodies for a place that held the tower terrible.... oh, and Velsharoon's back isn't he. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Jun 2016 : 12:16:06
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| Yep, I think they're all back in one form or another, but the SCAG doesn't give a full list of returned Gods and their domains, like for space reasons. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Jun 2016 : 12:36:53
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I think Lutheq or Eberos are the closet thing to a Capital Chessenta has. I don't know why Airspur is concidered apart of Chessenta in 5e, when it was the capital of Akanul, the Kingdom of Genasi. Did Chessenta and Akanul merge. Too few details.
Its not like they could switch the Genasi back with human that were trapped in Abeir, because the vast majority of human inhabitants of Airspur, died before the Genasi came.
Also I'm wondering how Mulhorand even functions with not one Pharoh, but possibly around a dozen or so. Now that Horus and Ra are two seperate beings again, which is the head Pharoh, Ra or Horus, or does it work like equal council of Pharohs, give God getting a vote?
I suppose each Pharoh could get their own turf, like maybe Sebek rules the swamps with in Mulhorand, Set, the Shadowfell side of Mulhorand, Isis, Anhur, Geb, Nethyr, Hathor, and others gets particular provinces within Mulhorand, Bastet perhaps gets her own city or is declared a travelling Ambassador. Also it appears from the SCAG that Mulhorand hold some former territories of Unther along with traditional Mulhorand (minus the plains of purple dust which is what's left of High Imaskar territory), so their is likely to be room enough for all the Mulhorand gods especially if expand not just outward, but via echo planes (Feywild and Shadowfell). |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Jun 2016 : 12:39:33
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| In Erin M. Evans next book were likely to get more details on Unther and Tymanther at least. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Jun 2016 : 18:07:38
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If I was High Imaskar I make peace with Mulhorand, its not worth trying to retake it.
They had one major settlement of their own, Skyclade, their capital, which likely got teleported to the Plains of Purple Dust.
Everybody else is like dead, fled to extraplanar holdings, or betrayed Imaskar as Agents of the Archwizard Nazram.
There is nothing left in Mulhorand, which likely has much larger armies, the Archwizard Nezram, and the Mulhorandi Gods, incarnated in manifestations and possibly incarnations.
So if the Imaskar are smart, they focus on Skyclade, their extraplanar holdings, and trade with Deep Imaskar and other underdark powers, but air based commerces using their giant red wings which are huge dragonflies with gondalas attached to their bellies, (with Mulhorand like stole a few of), and if out how to economically utilize the magical purple sands somehow (perhaps as magical steel glass of the Batrachi, potions, ingrediants for spells, used in poisons, industrial uses, weirder stuff, magical research, ect...).
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2016 : 09:58:05
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So, about 10-11 years or more prior to the spellplague, humans in Unther were transforming themselves into dragonborn in a bizarre ritual. Then the spellplague happens and all of Unther is suddenly transferred to a world where they are surrounded by dragonborn which are both enemies of the Untheri people, as well as being notedly atheistic. The people of Unther blame their transfer to Abeir on these transformation rituals performed upon their soil, specifically blaming both Tiamat and also the being calling himself both Marduk and Tiamat. The believe that the transformation was actually pulling over dragonborn bodies from the other world, and this is what caused the worlds to collide.
Not sure where to take that theory, but might help drive things.
Also, on Unther, we know that Gilgeam is back... but what about Ramman? What about Ishtar? What about all the other deities that died during the orcgate wars? |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jun 2016 : 11:01:52
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Spoiler alert
Enlil is back as well, in the body of Dragonborn!
It occurs to be that if Unther had been at war with Genasi's and Dragonborn for sometime before returning to Toril, they'd likely have a great many Genasi and Dragonborn slaves. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jun 2016 : 11:56:27
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I don't think their is any relation between the two types of Dragonborn, but Untherites might not remember that.
One wonders what cultural changes Untherite brings back with them from Abeir. New technologies, resources, and magics from Abier, while reclaiming Unther's birthright.
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jun 2016 : 12:00:32
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| I'm curious about Tzchazzar's new incarnation, his last one had become a major embarrassment, and in fact I think Tzchazzar had vacated his previous host during its time in the Shadowfell, which is why that Tzchazzar couldn't grant spells, because the divinity was gone. |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jun 2016 : 13:38:41
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Originally posted by Gyor
I'm curious about Tzchazzar's new incarnation, his last one had become a major embarrassment, and in fact I think Tzchazzar had vacated his previous host during its time in the Shadowfell, which is why that Tzchazzar couldn't grant spells, because the divinity was gone.
Tchazzar could never grant spells. He was what's known as a Dragon Ascendant - he was immortal and shared many of the abilities of gods but was just shy of divinity, not quite to the level of an archfiend or celestial paragon but still a quasi-power. Only demi-powers can grant spells without sponsorship from a more powerful deity.
Tiamat named him as her chosen, but never actually invested any of her own divine power in him. Tchazzar's priests therefore, would have received their spells from Tiamat. |
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The state of the old empires region in 5e
