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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 12 Jun 2016 : 22:00:20
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Exciting! |
Professional illustrator and comic book artist. Portfolio |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3805 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2016 : 22:06:37
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I've just bought it. Thanks for your work! |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6361 Posts |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
1151 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2016 : 22:00:52
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Loving it so far! I'll write a proper review once I get through it all.
Aesthetically speaking, have you thought about using some different backgrounds, watermarks, borders or other window dressing to make it more physically appealing? It doesn't matter to someone like me who only cares for the lore to be perfectly honest, but there is definitely an uptick in sales when you include a little more of these things (as far as I've noticed).
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2016 : 23:22:26
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I can create a background for you pretty easily - much better then the parchment ones on the DMG. I've just been busy as I think my project might very well find a home here on Candlekeep among the old compendiums and I'm trying to bring it up to pitch-level of quality.
Give me some time to put something together for you. |
Professional illustrator and comic book artist. Portfolio |
Edited by - Adhriva on 13 Jun 2016 23:46:13 |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 14 Jun 2016 : 07:18:21
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quote: Originally posted by Adhriva
I can create a background for you pretty easily - much better then the parchment ones on the DMG. I've just been busy as I think my project might very well find a home here on Candlekeep among the old compendiums and I'm trying to bring it up to pitch-level of quality.
Give me some time to put something together for you.
Not to horn in on Dazzlerdal's action, but would it be okay for me to ping you down the track re assistance with prettying up my bog standard offerings. Won't be bothering you for a while, but just wanted to know.
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2016 : 13:13:42
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To help avoid copyright/ip violation, every image used in my project will likely be released under a CC license on the DMG. As such, there will be more then enough stock art for Elves, followed by Shadovar, if you don't mind the modern look of them or the fact it will still take months of work before you get any of them. Just hold on, it will happen. |
Professional illustrator and comic book artist. Portfolio |
Edited by - Adhriva on 14 Jun 2016 13:14:44 |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3805 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2016 : 13:15:54
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quote: Originally posted by dazzlerdal
And as my only paying customer feel free to let me know if it was worth the money, whether you think there is anything missing that prevents you from running campaigns during this period, what else you would like to see, and if you would buy the next item (Netheril: The First Age).
I will probably implement any suggestions immediately as well.
I will dive into it this evening, or tomorrow at worst. I'll let you know after that. However, I very much like what I saw skimming through it. |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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shades of eternity
Learned Scribe
288 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 18:24:13
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If we criticised that, we'd either be hypocrites, or be in a similar boat. :p |
check out my post-post apocalyptic world at www.drevrpg.com |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6361 Posts |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6361 Posts |
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2016 : 20:15:09
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I would realy like to see more on Thaeravel as there is very little information about them. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2016 : 20:34:45
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quote: Originally posted by Wrigley
I would realy like to see more on Thaeravel as there is very little information about them.
I tied Thaeravel in with the Stonelands and the Cloudlands... Thaeravel's conflicts with Netheril blasting their castles from the sky leaving wizard weather and ruins... and a few lingering clouds.. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6361 Posts |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2016 : 21:32:35
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Cloudlands were from Elminsters Ecologies :)
The link I have to the region with Netheril is what brought the two into conflict. and caused all the stones.
Which legend did you go with?
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2016 : 21:44:50
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I have thought about having Thaeravel be first try of teraseer with giving humans high magic. There went something wrong and that is why he did it again with Seventon. Could you be more specific about those legends as I do not possess Elminster Ecologies (sadly). |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6361 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2016 : 20:23:05
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Okay I'm not wanting to clog this thread up with bits about thaeravel and the cloudlands but here are a few quotes for you.
quote: Most legends agree that there was once a powerful magical kingdom above the Stonelands, kept secret from those races who dwelt below it on the ground. This kingdom, which supposedly existed 1500 years ago or more, boasted a society comprised of dragons, giants, sylphs, pegasi, asperii, giant eagles, and even some winged, elflike beings whose name is no longer remembered (and who are now apparently extinct). These races coexisted in peaceful harmony among the clouds, avoiding the decadent human realms of the time, especially Asram. These beings came down to the surface of the Realms only to gather or trade for food and other necessities, and quickly fled back upward to their cloudy haven. The giants, ever industrious, even brought huge stones up with them. They built magnificent fortresses and cities in the sky, hidden by the clouds. It wasn.t until the Cloudlands were discovered by the mages of Asram and Anauria that disaster struck. The sky-dwelling races had been right to avoid their earthbound neighbors. The great and powerful wizards of these nations intended to conquer the Cloudlands, for they knew that such a kingdom would be a safe haven from the encroaching desert that was soon to destroy their earthbound realms. In the war that ensued, the Cloudlands were destroyed. The fortresses and cities so carefully crafted by giant artisans fell to the earth. You see their forlorn remains scattered over the plain now called the Stonelands, a mute relic of war.
That's from Elminster's Ecologies
quote: Apparently, in the days when even ancient Netheril was young, a number of mages, wizened elders, and priests set out to try to reason with a blue dragon of incredible might that had been plaguing their communities. The dragon rebuffed their attempts at parley, and many men and women were slain by its retributive attack. A god (which god is unknown today; it may even be a deity who no longer exists) decided to .help. the humans, and created creatures known as behir, amalgamated from the dead remains of their fallen comrades and the old scales of the dragon. It is true these behir, then great in number, slew the blue dragon in a desperate, pitched battle. But of course, as often happens in legends and in life, the monsters then turned on the very humans and other fair creatures they were made to save. These found the behir as great a foe as the dragon had once been. One evil was replaced by another. The bard who originally told me this tale said that the moral was one cannot trust the help of the gods in overcoming evil, but I am not so sure of the accuracy of his interpretation. That is just the sort of man he was. In any event, behir are undoubtedly real. Further, they are sworn enemies of dragons, although they do not aggressively hunt them. They simply do not abide drakes within their territory, and likewise never enter the realm of a dragon.
Also from Elminster's Ecologies
Other bits of info about the cloudlands are spread among these forums from Ed and THO which detail how the cloud kingdom came into the stonelands from the east (cormanthyr) fleeing humanoids. They came into conflict with dragons and the ensuing magical release destroyed the cloud castles and the flight of dragons.
I just put all the bits together and decided that the destruction of the cloudlands came way after the conflict with Asram (and they weren't destroyed by that nation just driven east and then south and then west to emerge in the stonelands (although it wasn't called that then) and that's where the magic that destroyed the cloudlands and the dragons created the stonelands geography.
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Edited by - Gary Dallison on 19 Jun 2016 20:23:28 |
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2016 : 17:35:25
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quote: Originally posted by dazzlerdal
I will dig out my quotes for thaeravel tomorrow.
As for the terraseer, i think you are near the mark. Arthindol was just one of many sarrukh liches or oreme. There were many and they each ruled in turn over a thousand years.
Given that they are evil i think they all worked against each other subtly so they could claim glory.
Their goal (for those that believed as arthindol did), was to create something capable of destroying the phaerimm when they returned. Arthindol and a number of others tried to do that by building powerful nations. Netheril was one, thaeravel another, and hlundadim another.
At least thats my reasoning
Thank you for this info from EE.
Oreme liches were 60 and they took turn in rulership after 4 years (LEoF p.102) and they are mentioned only as observers except Arthindol. It seems logical that he is not the only one meddling but who knows :-) Cloudlands feel wrong to me from this description you provided. I thought it was just cloud giant's kingdom. It is much more interesting that you mention Hlundadim as a kingdom - from what I know it is domain of one netheries wizard ruling goblin tribes in marches after Netheril's fall.
BTW I just found in GHotR that Shoal of Thirst was the roof of kobold city that was ruined by their green dragon overlord (legend about kultumak) |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2016 : 04:43:57
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quote: Originally posted by dazzlerdal
Hlundadim overlaps slightly with the survivor states and was believed to be ruled by a powerful netherese archwizard. Believes is a word that provides a lot of wriggle room.
Cheers for the kurtulmal quote, ive been looking for that for ages
I find it strange that nobody from Netheril knew who Hlundadim was and I have a feeling that there is more to it than it seems...
Also talking about survivor states I have found strange that no settlement is mentioned in unoccupied region SW from Netheril where Talfiric people will make their kingdoms later. I have placed Anauria there as it doesn't make much sense to settle within Anauroch basin when you run from Lifedrain effects and there are already some netheries villas and tombs in that region (so I merged Talfiric stock with netheries survivors). Also there is time discrepancies with supposed settlement of Moonsea area form the South by Jhaamdath migrants with migration of Netheries surivors from West earlier on. Specificaly Northkeep is mentioned to be first human settlement this North...
Happy that my mention helped. I know the feeling when you have seen some piece of lore somewhere but just couldn't find it ;-) |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2016 : 17:10:37
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I am not sure where but I have read that almost everybody knew he was sarrukh (at least it sounded that way) but I agree that they shouldn't. I had Iolaum toppled on another lore - he is old enough that he could have had contact with Imaskari before their fall. That is the reason he was interested in area his lair is now - he found about their hidden city and tried to find it. In my version this is why he tried to become overmind - he suspected that his intelect is not enough to crack this.
Nice touch with beholder city explanation. I just like to have some meaningful amount of netheries leave in SW direction as it is one of the easy ways that weren't officialy used somehow.
I do not see a need to justify your version, I like it as it is :-)
I look forward on your take on Arthindol's involvement and later the creation of first mythallar.
You do very nice job and I just hope to inspire you with my ideas and questions. |
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