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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
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 Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 17:58:05
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I just got Throne of Bhaal the other day, and I went into Watcher's Keep on a save on Shadows of Amn I had started fairly recently. I was surprised at how easy it was, until I had to fight that Chromatic Demon guy. Can anyone tell me how to fight him?
Also, I picked up one of the new Flail of Ages heads (poison) and I don't know how to put it together (I went back to the forge in Nalia's keep and talked to Cromwell in the Docks). Do I have to wait and do it in the Throne of Bhaal map, or is there something to do in Amn?
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Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 19:55:24
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| Yes, the new flail heads have to be added in ToB, as I remember. The imp who takes Cromwell's place will do it for you. |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 20:25:39
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| EDIT: Double post (if you could call it that...). |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
Edited by - arilyn742 on 13 Mar 2004 20:27:56 |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 20:26:43
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Thanks!
Now, about my other question... |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 21:11:28
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Hail!
If you mean the one in Whacher's Keep, I know what you must do:
He changes forms, so that his resistances changes to, so you will have to change your attacks to. I don't remember all is forms and stuff, but I think there is a lots of notes from the Wizards around, on for each lab, and on these it stands which form that needs what kind of damage. And I think there is an Imp you can talk to to. |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 23:57:22
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Well I knew that (although the only in-game note about it is the one about cold damaging him when he is in regular demon form). I was hoping for some trick that'd make the battle a walkover. It probably is for a high level party, but I gues I've seen the limits of a 13th level skald.
Thanks anyway!
Now, does anyone know how to make it so the Amaunataur statue (or anything else, for that matter) no longer "appears busy"? No one will talk to me . |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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Renco
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 17:04:27
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Install the latest patch - that usually clears up the 'person is busy' problems.
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
508 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2004 : 19:41:29
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Oh for new technology. That 'person is busy' was possibly the most frustrating thing EVER, in the history of games. Mainly because I enjoyed the rest of the game so much. The amount of times I reloaded my game to speak to that slaver guy, and all I needed was a patch.   *Faints from rising blood pressure.*
Watcher's Keep - I mentioned it on another thread (couldn't remember the Watcher's bit). Well I never had any problems fighting the Chromatic Demon (it was Demogorgon who simply trashed me every time) - but then again I was fighting him at about 25th level, so yes - it might be worth levelling your party up a bit first. |
Chair of the The Rightful Return of Monster Deities to FR Society (RRMDFRS)
My character, drawn by Liodain: Sarelle / Sarelle (smaller) |
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Renco
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 20:11:30
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I never actually killed the Demogorgon, he just fried my party every time i tried. Heck, that group of nasty people before you got to him was bad enough!!
And yes, thank god for patches, although you'd think that if they didnt rush products out in the first place, they wouldnt need to patch them later! 
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2004 : 10:46:37
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| I hate the "That person is busy" too. I haven't really started BG2 as I was busy with Neverwinter Expansion. The thing that frustrates me most is finding doors to buildings in BG2. Always seems to be hiding and plus the fact you can't rotate camera angles doesn't help either. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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Chyron
Learned Scribe
Hong Kong
279 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2004 : 15:17:24
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Originally posted by Renco
And yes, thank god for patches, although you'd think that if they didnt rush products out in the first place, they wouldnt need to patch them later!
Renco
You could not be more right. The internet has made product releases a sham in terms of quality. Now it is expected for games to have bugs 
Before the net got big there was no patching for computer games....but then if a game did not work on your system (and you went a high end hacker) you were basically SOL.  |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2004 : 18:00:09
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Originally posted by Lina
I hate the "That person is busy" too. I haven't really started BG2 as I was busy with Neverwinter Expansion. The thing that frustrates me most is finding doors to buildings in BG2. Always seems to be hiding and plus the fact you can't rotate camera angles doesn't help either.
Try holding down the tab button. |
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BrokenRulz
Acolyte
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2004 : 21:28:46
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| So what is the most favorite class to play in BG2? Which character is the most worth while to have? Which one gets the best quests? Are classes like Totemic Druid and Undead Hunter worth trying out? |
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Israfel666
Acolyte
Italy
37 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2004 : 18:01:36
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Well, the Kensai/Mage is absolutely deadly. I used to drink a potion of Wisdom (forgot the true name) then cast Wish for a double-length Time Stop and Improved Alacrity, then Black Blade of Disaster-Energy Blades-several other buffs-Tenser's Transformation. With that combo, my main character killed the green dragon in Watcher's Keep by himself and without even taking a scratch (in fact, he brought it from full health to death before the Time Stop effect ended).
If you want a 'cool' class, my favourite is the Shapeshifter. The Totemic Druid is very bad, while the Undead Hunter may be worth a try, but don't expect much after you've stopped confronting vampires. |
Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus. |
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BrokenRulz
Acolyte
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2004 : 23:24:56
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| Could you explain why the Shapeshifter is your favorite class? Also, any other recommendations? |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2004 : 08:31:47
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For a straight slog through the game, I think that the sorcerer is pretty fun. Time stop just never gets old.
Kensai/Mage is a favourite, although I've never played it personally.
A Fighter/Mage/Thief or Fighter/Mage/Cleric is another example of good combinations.
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
508 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2004 : 10:45:27
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Maybe it was just me... but Fighter/Mage/Thief was a real slog. I was too dilute and weak. But then I did complete the game, so it isn't impossible.
Whilst I personally loved Mages and Sorcerers I'd say single-classed you can't go wrong with a Paladin - to contrast with the mostly magic-wielding NPCs. But I hate paladins.
Otherwise I'd go for Fighter/Rogue. |
Chair of the The Rightful Return of Monster Deities to FR Society (RRMDFRS)
My character, drawn by Liodain: Sarelle / Sarelle (smaller) |
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Israfel666
Acolyte
Italy
37 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2004 : 13:59:13
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The Shapeshifter? Well..
- Very powerful at early and mid-levels
- Little need for equipment
- Very cool (solve the quest in Trademeet in werewolf form, then look at what your statue looks like...)
- There is a mod somewhere on the Net that allows you to switch from werewolf to human form much more easily, thus removing the main discomfort of playing a Shapeshifter. |
Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2004 : 12:45:42
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As a complete Shape-Shifter i agree with Israel 666. The shap-shifter is one of the most interesting roles to play. i love fighting in the wolf form. And i really enjoy the sound of attacking.
If you equip your shape-Shifter with the amulet of power that Aran Linvail givbes you, you'll have the perfect Vampire slayer.
Have you seen Underworld. So this. |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2004 : 09:18:40
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Got another question:
(Might require ToB)
Anyone ever notice, after putting on the cheat keys, that when you press Ctrl+C you get this weird account of what happens to (Nalia) after (she) leaves the party? What's with that? And does it work with other NPCs - it doesn't appear to be on any cheat list I check.
(I did this shortly after kicking Nalia out and got the one about her.) |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2004 : 11:38:00
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I got a question for BG2:SoA...
Where the heck do I find this dwarf that smiths components you pick up along quests into weapons? |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2004 : 17:06:16
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| Lina, Cromwell can be found on the east side of the Docks District. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2004 : 15:35:48
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Lina, Cromwell can be found on the east side of the Docks District.
Right I'll start searching. Although there might just be a chance that I could have run into him before and was a bit rude to him so he might not be talking to me. I don't know if it's him or another smithy. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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The Silhouette
Acolyte
25 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2004 : 19:59:26
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The best way to kill the daemon man...thing...is to well kill it!! but...you can always call a deva if you have the spell.....and if you dont have that...use a call daemon thing spell "Gate" and try using Brigbys Crushing Fist and also...Delayed Fireball...and if that doesnt work...haste your characters and summon everything possible..and if you still dont win...well sorry to say...your character SUCK!!! |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2004 : 00:57:30
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| Silhouette, not being able to defeat the Demogorgon doesn't mean you suck. The Prince of Demons is supposed to be really hard and not have to be beaten, which is why you were offered a choice at the end just to trap the demon inside Watcher's Keep instead of fighting it. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Durak
Seeker
68 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2004 : 11:14:21
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The daemon changes shape into 4 forms.
Each form is weak to one or two types of damage.
I had only weapons for 3 of the shapes, and when it changed to the fourth shape it automatically regenerated full health.
So i locked it in a room and set up camp.
Am now on lookout for acid damaging weapons, of +3 or more. My +3 bow with acid arrows doesnt even hit it. |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 17 Sep 2004 : 19:34:07
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That was already answered. Cycles of Moon ago.
But maybe I can help thee: didst thou go to Nalia's Keep? If not, do so, and get the Flail of Ages, with all three heads (one's hard: get a good walkthrough to find out how to get the one from Daleson). If thou hast already done it, and missed the Acid head, then thou shouldst have played a fighter and become supreme High Lord of the De'Arnise Hold ! MWA, HA, HA, HA !!! |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2004 : 04:13:19
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| I myself actually had no problems at all fighting the Chromatic demon. Other than the fact that he took awhile to beat and I had to use several healing potions, there was no problem. If you play Watcher's Keep AFTER beating SoA (like I did), you should have amassed yourself quite the arsenal of weapons and spells. Basically just keeping hitting the thing should do the trick, I didn't have to switch back and forth or use specific types of weapons. Summoned monsters and allies also are helpful in distracting the demon. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2004 : 12:25:14
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Sorry for what I'm about to say- if it hurts anyones feeling: My Apologies
The Chromatic Demon was easy to kill- & my characters were in about chapter 2-3 of SoA
The way I did it was:
Did you notice that he changed shape? That's how to kill him
Each of the wizards in the labratories studied a different element
Ice, Fire, Air & Slime/Acid
& each of the wizards had a way of killing another (they hated each other to bits)
So:
Appearance Weakness
Red Demon Ice/Coldness
Ice Golem Fire
Shambling Mound Lightning
Air Elemental Poison
Hope that helps
Oh, BTW Silhouette
Just because people can't kill Demogorgorn doesn't mean their characters suck- it just means the characters haven't learned Demon killing 101:
To kill a small demon- find a bigger one
To kill a big demon- find the biggest one
To kill the biggest demon- forget the other demons, just find the biggest guns/ weapons & make peace with everyone else before hand (& possibly your funeral plans worked out)
Or otherwise they just keep doing a little slip-up every time they face Demogorgon- like casting the wrong spell at the wrong time |
If at first I don't succeed...the wife won't let me forget |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 22:13:10
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Originally posted by Aleta_Delryn
Sorry for what I'm about to say- if it hurts anyones feeling: My Apologies
The Chromatic Demon was easy to kill- & my characters were in about chapter 2-3 of SoA
The way I did it was:
Did you notice that he changed shape? That's how to kill him
Each of the wizards in the labratories studied a different element
Ice, Fire, Air & Slime/Acid
& each of the wizards had a way of killing another (they hated each other to bits)
So:
Appearance Weakness
Red Demon Ice/Coldness
Ice Golem Fire
Shambling Mound Lightning
Air Elemental Poison
Hope that helps
Oh, BTW Silhouette
Just because people can't kill Demogorgorn doesn't mean their characters suck- it just means the characters haven't learned Demon killing 101:
To kill a small demon- find a bigger one
To kill a big demon- find the biggest one
To kill the biggest demon- forget the other demons, just find the biggest guns/ weapons & make peace with everyone else before hand (& possibly your funeral plans worked out)
Or otherwise they just keep doing a little slip-up every time they face Demogorgon- like casting the wrong spell at the wrong time
Uh, thanks anyway, but I already knew that when I started the thread. I have long since abandoned that save, have started a new one and defeated the demon with ease.
Now, my more recent question...? |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 00:39:16
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| Does anyone have any tips against Melissan? I'm at the Throne of Bhaal right now and I ahve to go through all those little wells to cut off the souls. However, the fights in between are weaking my characters so by the time I face Melissan after I cut off her supply, I get my arse whooped by all those demons and monsters. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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