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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 25 Aug 2015 : 02:16:53
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So this news was released several days ago at ENWorld:
Spoiler tagged for those who don't want to be spoiled. Use highlight if you do.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?2846-The-Fetid-Wedding!#.Vdu_-nuKxwA
Zuggtmoy wants to "wed" the Araumycos in the Underdark. There's going to be a ritualistic wedding/demonic binding that gets wedding-crashed by Juiblex, according to rumor.
Amusing. 
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Laeknir
Seeker
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Posted - 25 Aug 2015 : 03:03:31
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| Chris Perkins was inspired by Alice in Wonderland for this. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
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1271 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2015 : 03:48:10
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Originally posted by Laeknir
Chris Perkins was inspired by Alice in Wonderland for this.
Aye. They'd been talking that point up long before we even knew what the module would be about.
It definitely makes you stop and stare, and it definitely gets a sort of madness going.
I'm interested in whatever nuggets of lore regarding Auraumycos might be forthcoming. There were a few threads about it in recent years that peaked my curiosity, and it'll be fun to see what kind of additional information we get. |
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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
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Posted - 25 Aug 2015 : 11:31:33
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| Would someone please get FR away from Perkins? He is a complete joke. |
“Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!”
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Aug 2015 : 23:20:32
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| I wonder if they'll take on the point that Ghaunadaur takes on Juiblex' aspect in the Realms and that Juiblex himself has never had any actual influence there. |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
705 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 00:49:21
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The more I think about it the more I want to nuke the whole thing. FR has become CP's private playground where he can try any of his crazy and obnoxious things. I mean seriously, Zuggtmoy trying to marry Araumycos?
Also, the demon lord thinking she could somehow control it in any way. It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1271 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 00:52:02
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| It's a demon. They're supposed to be chaotic and crazy. If it were a Devil, I'd agree. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
705 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 02:30:57
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Originally posted by Delwa
It's a demon. They're supposed to be chaotic and crazy. If it were a Devil, I'd agree.
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 02:39:03
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| I wouldn't call it stupid. There could easily be reason beyond mortal understanding. This is a supernatural demon and an apparently psionic entity. Their logic and reasoning doesn't have tomake sense to you and me. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 03:29:08
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Mawwaige is what bwings us togevver today, tweasure your wuv. Do you have the wing?
I mean, I agree it is pretty stupid. A bloaty mushroom goddess marrying a semi-aware fungus, with the wedding gate-crashed by a jealous formless slime-blob.
Just... why? If Araumycos is a fungus, there's no need for a wedding or demonic binding, it's in her domain. It's like Lathander deciding to marry his morning coffee or something.
This has Chris Perkins stink all over it.
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 03:32:32
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 03:37:08
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Originally posted by Irennan
I think that this is supposed to be a weird/crazy/comedic storyline. That's where all the weirdness comes from.
Well, yes, almost certainly. Perkins is beloved by people who get yuk-yuks from goofy slapstick and one-liners.
If you've ever seen one of his "showy" public DMing events, it's filled with gag-humor similar to Beavis and Butthead.
"HUHUHHUHHUH Zuggtmoy farts a poison cloud, roll dice!"
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 03:45:14
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Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by Irennan
I think that this is supposed to be a weird/crazy/comedic storyline. That's where all the weirdness comes from.
Well, yes, almost certainly. Perkins is beloved by people who get yuk-yuks from goofy slapstick and one-liners.
If you've ever seen one of his "showy" public DMing events, it's filled with gag-humor similar to Beavis and Butthead.
"HUHUHHUHHUH Zuggtmoy farts a poison cloud, roll dice!"
Not my cup of tea. But I'm not concerned over it, as it is just an adventure and won't change anything about thee Realms. We're at the point where every year some random apocalypse happens, then the heroes of the day come and fix everything. After that, everything is back to how it was before, ready to receive the next BBEG. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 05:29:36
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I guess I'm alone in not seeing what the big deal is... Zuggtmoy is all about the fungus and such, which Araumycos is. And it's not like Araumycos is some big, inanimate object -- see the below quote from Ed.
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Araumycos is alive and sentient, but does not think as we do. It is magically bonded both to The High Forest above it and to the Weave which it in part anchors. The strong innate magic of that spot both feeds it and was the lure for those things it guards, simply by smothering them in its own body: the abandoned domiciles of ancient, now-vanished beings of several races who desired to master magic. Think of it as unslayable, un-conquerable -- and best left alone. There ARE a multitude of far easier foes and treasures in Faerun, awaiting even the most stubbornly foolish adventurers.
Note that this also give us some additional motivations for Zuggtmoy: if Araumycos anchors the Weave, can she somehow suborn/take advantage of that anchor? Do her plans involve something Araumycos is guarding? |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
705 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 10:43:22
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Originally posted by Delwa
I wouldn't call it stupid. There could easily be reason beyond mortal understanding. This is a supernatural demon and an apparently psionic entity. Their logic and reasoning doesn't have to make sense to you and me.
But they are partaking in a mortal ritual so yes it is stupid.
The gist of the story has the potential to be really great but of course Perkins adds his lame goofiness to it and ruins it. |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 11:29:45
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
Also, the demon lord thinking she could somehow control it in any way. It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
why? She's older and more powerful |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 11:36:43
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You can be assured of one thing: WotC have no idea regarding Ed's musings on Araumycos here at the Keep.
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
705 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 11:43:19
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Originally posted by Mirtek
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
Also, the demon lord thinking she could somehow control it in any way. It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
why? She's older and more powerful
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 11:58:12
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
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Originally posted by Mirtek
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
Also, the demon lord thinking she could somehow control it in any way. It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
why? She's older and more powerful
How do you get she is more powerful?
She should be at least in demigod level. She rules half an abyssal layer, only contested by the similarly powerful entity ruling the other half
The other one is just a large and powerful mortal creature.
Unless the novels want to downplay archfiends Form demi-/Leser deities to fodder for midlevel mortals again. |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 12:28:27
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Originally posted by Mirtek
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
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Originally posted by Mirtek
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
Also, the demon lord thinking she could somehow control it in any way. It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
why? She's older and more powerful
How do you get she is more powerful?
She should be at least in demigod level. She rules half an abyssal layer, only contested by the similarly powerful entity ruling the other half
The other one is just a large and powerful mortal creature.
Unless the novels want to downplay archfiends Form demi-/Leser deities to fodder for midlevel mortals again.
Do you have any kind of statistical write up of Araumycos? Wooly just posted a nice little piece of Araumycos. We know basically nothing of the creature as far as power goes. You think just because it resides in the material plane that it is somehow mortal? |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 12:45:35
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 13:15:56
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Originally posted by Eltheron
Mawwaige is what bwings us togevver today, tweasure your wuv. Do you have the wing?
I mean, I agree it is pretty stupid. A bloaty mushroom goddess marrying a semi-aware fungus, with the wedding gate-crashed by a jealous formless slime-blob.
Just... why? If Araumycos is a fungus, there's no need for a wedding or demonic binding, it's in her domain. It's like Lathander deciding to marry his morning coffee or something.
This has Chris Perkins stink all over it.
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 13:20:14
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Originally posted by George Krashos
You can be assured of one thing: WotC have no idea regarding Ed's musings on Araumycos here at the Keep.
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Sadly, that wouldn't be surprising. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 13:22:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I guess I'm alone in not seeing what the big deal is... Zuggtmoy is all about the fungus and such, which Araumycos is. And it's not like Araumycos is some big, inanimate object -- see the below quote from Ed.
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Araumycos is alive and sentient, but does not think as we do. It is magically bonded both to The High Forest above it and to the Weave which it in part anchors. The strong innate magic of that spot both feeds it and was the lure for those things it guards, simply by smothering them in its own body: the abandoned domiciles of ancient, now-vanished beings of several races who desired to master magic. Think of it as unslayable, un-conquerable -- and best left alone. There ARE a multitude of far easier foes and treasures in Faerun, awaiting even the most stubbornly foolish adventurers.
Note that this also give us some additional motivations for Zuggtmoy: if Araumycos anchors the Weave, can she somehow suborn/take advantage of that anchor? Do her plans involve something Araumycos is guarding?
Corrupt it and subsume a part of Toril and Araumycos, which then becomes part of her layer on the Abyss. Isn't that what demonlords like to do? |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1271 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 13:53:49
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
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Originally posted by Delwa
I wouldn't call it stupid. There could easily be reason beyond mortal understanding. This is a supernatural demon and an apparently psionic entity. Their logic and reasoning doesn't have to make sense to you and me.
But they are partaking in a mortal ritual so yes it is stupid.
The gist of the story has the potential to be really great but of course Perkins adds his lame goofiness to it and ruins it.
She's trying to bind herself to Auraumycos in order to gain power, and our limited human explanation of this is to describe it as a marriage. It's not stupid, we just don't fully understand what's going on with the rites of some dark ritual binding that's apparently the easiest way to achieve her increase in power. If changing the word choice of "marriage" to instead use "dark ritual" makes it less silly for your table, it's a "problem" easily solved.
Back to the binding, which one is more powerful doesn't really matter, just as it doesn't really matter which person in a relationship has the higher IQ. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 15:07:51
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The 5e D&D material is not meant for the 'Realms fanbois' (US), its made for the 12-14 year old crowd who are just getting into D&D. This is what happens when YOUR setting becomes the 'core' setting. Its no longer about the lore, its about fun modules you can enjoy with your friends. This is precisely the kind of thing I enjoyed back when I first started playing RPGs.
D&D is owned by a TOY COMPANY - they are aiming their products at an audience they understand. They have no idea how to sell to us. This is not meant as negative, BTW - its just the plain truth. I really wish people would stop expecting literature from a toy company.
What happened to us is like the difference between the old Teen Titan cartoon and the new one. Either enjoy what they are offering (and I AM, playing a game with my kids), or find a setting that is more mature and suits your tastes. FR has been dumbed-down to Greyhawk (and I am both a huge GH AND FR fan), and that was not due to 'lack of talent', but rather, due to a very specific target audience.
This particular adventure arc, though, I have NO INTENTION on running. My group is just going to stay on the Sword Coast and avoid all that High Forest silliness. If I want that stuff, I'll eat a nice salad (with mushrooms) covered in Blue Cheese dressing. Thats the only way I enjoy my mold on top of my fungus.
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 15:21:09
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Originally posted by Markustay
The 5e D&D material is not meant for the 'Realms fanbois' (US), its made for the 12-14 year old crowd who are just getting into D&D. This is what happens when YOUR setting becomes the 'core' setting. Its no longer about the lore, its about fun modules you can enjoy with your friends. This is precisely the kind of thing I enjoyed back when I first started playing RPGs.
D&D is owned by a TOY COMPANY - they are aiming their products at an audience they understand. They have no idea how to sell to us. This is not meant as negative, BTW - its just the plain truth. I really wish people would stop expecting literature from a toy company.
What happened to us is like the difference between the old Teen Titan cartoon and the new one. Either enjoy what they are offering (and I AM, playing a game with my kids), or find a setting that is more mature and suits your tastes. FR has been dumbed-down to Greyhawk (and I am both a huge GH AND FR fan), and that was not due to 'lack of talent', but rather, due to a very specific target audience.
I'll agree with this. I have the privilege of having two local game stores, one caters to the Warhammer / Comic book crowd, the other to families and the MTG/AL crowd.
The second has a lot of younger kids as their clients, the first old grognards. Hanging out at both, I see kids eating up the new D&D stuff (and before we go down that road, the majority of those kids don't play AL.) It's marketed to them.
The other game store doesn't really focus on D&D, but the D&D guys that do hang out there look at the new material as 1. something they can play with their families, 2. Something that takes a little tweaking to make it appeal to more mature gamers.
I personally plan on harvesting the magic items and stat blocks from this adventure, but I don't have plans to run it. I'm still running my homebrew FR game, and I've got people wanting to play Tyranny of Dragons after that. If I get any more in my backlog, I'll probably die of depression. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 15:37:39
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If it's not a deity it's a mortal
Then explain primordials, fae, elementals... They are all immortal, but they are not deities. |
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Korginard
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 15:48:47
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I'm sure I'll regret this, but can we PLEASE lay off the name calling? I don't care how upset you are, there's no need to disparage people and get so bent out of shape. We don't like what someone does so we call him a stupid poopey head? Seriously.. don't make me say it.
That being said, what ever happened to the concept of using what you like and discarding the rest? Yes I agree, this all looks to be more discard than use, but there is some interesting content if you are willing to look at it without getting bent out of shape.
Yes the "marriage" angle is just silly, but it's easy enough to put that asside and simply have Zuggy trying to gain power thru Auraumycos. She obviously does not control him simply because he's fungus. We know he's much more than a simple fungus, and despite being a Demon Lord, Zuggy's power in the realms is based on how active she has been there. This may be a ploy to gather a large amount of influence in the realms all at once.
I'll also be interested to see what the other Demon Lords do. We know Demogorgon seems set to run rampant in Menzoberranzan. That alone makes me wonder what his rampage will do to the Baenrae hold on power there. What about Graz'zt? Will his appearance in the realms cause Waukeen to get involved? (I imagine she's still pretty miffed with him). My all time favorite has to be Orcus however, I'd love to see him involved, but I do know that he was banished from the Realms and I don't know what kind of time frame was involved.
So yeah, there's probably a lot of silly stuff we don't want, but lets focus on ideas we COULD use. If were not going to be happy with what WOTC gives us, we could at least work up some ideas of our own. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 15:53:19
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Originally posted by Markustay
The 5e D&D material is not meant for the 'Realms fanbois' (US), its made for the 12-14 year old crowd who are just getting into D&D. This is what happens when YOUR setting becomes the 'core' setting. Its no longer about the lore, its about fun modules you can enjoy with your friends. This is precisely the kind of thing I enjoyed back when I first started playing RPGs.
D&D is owned by a TOY COMPANY - they are aiming their products at an audience they understand. They have no idea how to sell to us. This is not meant as negative, BTW - its just the plain truth. I really wish people would stop expecting literature from a toy company.
What happened to us is like the difference between the old Teen Titan cartoon and the new one. Either enjoy what they are offering (and I AM, playing a game with my kids), or find a setting that is more mature and suits your tastes. FR has been dumbed-down to Greyhawk (and I am both a huge GH AND FR fan), and that was not due to 'lack of talent', but rather, due to a very specific target audience.
This particular adventure arc, though, I have NO INTENTION on running. My group is just going to stay on the Sword Coast and avoid all that High Forest silliness. If I want that stuff, I'll eat a nice salad (with mushrooms) covered in Blue Cheese dressing. Thats the only way I enjoy my mold on top of my fungus.
I'm sorry, but why the heck is it wrong to expect quality creative work just because it's "aimed at" 10-14 year olds?
The Hobbit: There and Back Again was written for kids. Harry Potter was written for kids. Quality creative work.
Twilight is also written for pre-teens/teens.
Creative work aimed at youth can be great, or it can be really stupid.
Why excuse lazy, poor creativity for any age-group?
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Korginard
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 : 16:08:48
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I do agree that the target audience has definately changed. This is a big reason I've shifted away from D&D and looked more into Pathfinder. I still love the realms however and will gobble up any bit of info they release about it. If I don't like something they offer I'll ignore it.
And yes, it's exactly like the Teen Titans cartoons, I'm personally more Justice Leauge/Young Justice than either, but I can't stand the cutesy new one.
That brings up a point I had not thought about. I've been all about sifting and filtering what they give us and enjoying whatever you can get out of it. I find very VERY little that can be sifted from Teen Titans Go... I suppose on that at least I can see some of the anger and frustration being expressed. I could rant and rave that Justice League and Young Justice were awesome and there's nothing like them being offered anymore, but honestly that wouldn't change anything. |
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Spoilers: Rage of Demons / Out of the Abyss story
