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Riley37
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Posted - 12 Jun 2015 :  10:02:00  Show Profile Send Riley37 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
What happens if someone takes a Harper Pin from the Harper to whom it was issued?

Does the Harper Pin have an enchantment which causes it to self-destruct if the owner dies?

What happens if the Pin is physically separated from its still-living owner, eg, the owner takes a bath, and then someone steals all the bather's clothing and bags, including the pin?

Self-destruct on separation would be ideal for security, but dang, that's expensive to replace, or inconvenient if the Harper was on a mission and far from anyone who would recognize them personally and confirm that they're authorized for a replacement pin.

Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 12 Jun 2015 :  12:13:00  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing like that, since there's been occasions where people have picked up a Harper pin outside of becoming a Harper (although, a few of those eventually become Harpers anyway).

However, according to Magic of Faerûn, p 160:

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When worn by an evil being, a greater Harper pin turns black and makes discordant jangling sounds (a -10 penalty on Move Silently checks).

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Crai
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Posted - 12 Jun 2015 :  15:07:12  Show Profile Send Crai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Although depending upon which RPG system you are playing with, there are ways to effectively mask your alignment to either get a magic item to work properly .... or *not* have the magic item's negative side effects activate,
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TBeholder
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Posted - 12 Jun 2015 :  15:48:39  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Riley37

What happens if someone takes a Harper Pin from the Harper to whom it was issued?

A big $#!%storm nuisance to everyone.
I mean, they are a secret society.
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Does the Harper Pin have an enchantment which causes it to self-destruct if the owner dies?
What happens if the Pin is physically separated from its still-living owner, eg, the owner takes a bath, and then someone steals all the bather's clothing and bags, including the pin?

They often are enchanted to "sour" (jangle and look tarnished) if detect a wearer as evil. But IIRC were said to never being made individually attuned (like Drow House Insignia, Ravenian blood tokens, etc).

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Riley37
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Posted - 13 Jun 2015 :  05:45:32  Show Profile Send Riley37 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks. I have a storyline in which an LG worshipper of Tyr has reason to impersonate a Harper, and was checking if that's legit.
(Yes, she's violating Harper rules, but she never swore to obey THOSE rules.)
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