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Renzokuken
Acolyte

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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 :  00:04:44  Show Profile  Visit Renzokuken's Homepage Send Renzokuken a Private Message
Currently I am ripping through Depths of Madness. After that, I am not too sure what to read... Too many damn choices.

Currently reading: Dark Elf Trilogy (FR)
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Xysma
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Posted - 22 Jul 2007 :  05:15:51  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
I just finished The Howling Delve and can't wait for more from Jaleigh. I highly recommend this one.

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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
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Posted - 27 Jul 2007 :  16:28:50  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message
After finishing Balckstaff, a novel that is definitelly shaking up my forgotten realms (even though I considered the book not to be one of the best written one's, it was most certainly an enjoyable read), I started to read the Sellsword II & III.

It starts interestingly and I hope to get some insight onto the characters of Entreri and Jarlaxle. Looking forward to find teh time to read on,

Ergdusch

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J D Dunsany
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United Kingdom
180 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2007 :  01:48:39  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
Am about 110 pages or so into 'Hand of Fire' and it's shaping up to be better than 'Crown' - or, at least, with a tighter focus. Oh, and I seem to recall saying that 'Crown of Fire' had the best (!) description of a sewer I'd ever read. Well, this one has the best description of a caravan journey I've ever read.* Is there no end to this man's talents?

Best!

JDD

* Of course, you wouldn't be able to see properly for all the dust flying around and of course wagons would come equipped with harnesses that no self-respecting driver would actually use... Detail like that, ladies and gentlemen, is how to make your fantasy writing come alive...

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2007 :  02:26:14  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
Went to nobleknight.com and finally ordered some old, hard-to-find and/or out of print books. I ordered Death of the Dragon, a hardcover, for only 9.95 (and it's mint condition!). What I am most looking forward to? I finally decided to get myself the Old Grey Box that so many of you talk about! Can anyone say OLD SCHOOL! It's going to be so much fun seeing the Realms in it's earlier years.

In the meantime, I'm reading The Ogre's Pact, one of those books I had sitting around but didn't get to until now.

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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
180 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2007 :  13:14:06  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Went to nobleknight.com and finally ordered some old, hard-to-find and/or out of print books. I ordered Death of the Dragon, a hardcover, for only 9.95 (and it's mint condition!). What I am most looking forward to? I finally decided to get myself the Old Grey Box that so many of you talk about! Can anyone say OLD SCHOOL! It's going to be so much fun seeing the Realms in it's earlier years.

In the meantime, I'm reading The Ogre's Pact, one of those books I had sitting around but didn't get to until now.



Congrats on getting 'Death of the Dragon'. Can't wait to hear what you think of it.

As to the Grey Box, again, congratulations. I've tried to pick up a few older supplements and whatnot, but I suspect I'm way behind you.

Best!

JDD

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Alaundo
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Posted - 31 Jul 2007 :  17:11:30  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

In the meantime, I'm reading The Ogre's Pact, one of those books I had sitting around but didn't get to until now.



Well met

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this, Rinonalyrna. I had these novels since their original release and ended up leaving them until quite near the end of my reading backlog to read them... and thoroughly enjoyed them

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 31 Jul 2007 :  20:33:10  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

In the meantime, I'm reading The Ogre's Pact, one of those books I had sitting around but didn't get to until now.



Well met

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this, Rinonalyrna. I had these novels since their original release and ended up leaving them until quite near the end of my reading backlog to read them... and thoroughly enjoyed them



I always liked these books, especially Ogre's Pact. A bit light on Realms feel, but a good read.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 :  02:13:26  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany


Congrats on getting 'Death of the Dragon'. Can't wait to hear what you think of it.


And I can't want to read it! When I'm done with it I'll be sure to make my thoughts known.

quote:
As to the Grey Box, again, congratulations. I've tried to pick up a few older supplements and whatnot, but I suspect I'm way behind you.

Best!

JDD



Heh, maybe not as much as you think. I've got a ways to go, myself. In any case, nobleknight.com might be a good place to try if you have some extra cash. There's a lot of old stuff there.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 :  02:23:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this, Rinonalyrna. I had these novels since their original release and ended up leaving them until quite near the end of my reading backlog to read them... and thoroughly enjoyed them



Sure thing. :) I'm about 100 pages in so far, and much like Jorkens I'm finding it an enjoyable read. It is rather light on "Realms feel" because Hartsvale--based on my impression of it--is quite the isolated bit of land, and also rarely ever mentioned at all in Realms supplements. However, the Realms is supposed to be full of these little overlooked kingdoms (overlooked by us, at least). I love the idea of a Realm where humans and giants get along, but it almost seems as though humans have, to an extent, adopted giant religion--there are human priests of giant gods, but I don't think I've even seen any of the standard human gods mentioned yet! Not a bad thing necessarily, or a big deal, but it adds to the impression that the novel isn't especially "Realmish" and feels like it could have been set anywhere.

Also, I'm a little worried that the novel is going to be loaded with combat scenes over character interaction scenes--Beyond the High Road felt like that at times (though I liked that book, too), and I definitely prefer plot and dialogue over combat. The plot itself though is very intriguing and looks to be about truth vs. deception, and whether or not loyalty is always a good thing. Lastly, I have to mention that it's pretty cool to finally learn who, exactly, this "Avner of Hartsvale" is. He's referred to in the Erevis Cale books, and now I get to see him in action, as a teenager.

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 :  09:07:34  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
The first book is the most combat heavy, but the action is evenly spread out throughout the book. No five page long duels and such. The other two books are more intrigue based as the plot evolves.

Oh, and have fun with the Gray box; an old friend I never tire of.

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Erevis Cale
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 :  15:45:44  Show Profile  Visit Erevis Cale's Homepage Send Erevis Cale a Private Message
I'm sort of behind in my reading. I just finished Shadowbred, my 37th realms novel. Since the beginning of the Erevis Cale trilogy I haven't read any other realms novels except those by Paul S. Kemp. I ordered 4 new books though while I wait for Shadowstorm. The biggest problem for me is deciding which books to read first.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2007 :  01:56:37  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

The first book is the most combat heavy, but the action is evenly spread out throughout the book. No five page long duels and such. The other two books are more intrigue based as the plot evolves.


That's good to know. I'm not fond of duels that take pages to describe, and if the other two novels are intrigue based, that's all the better.

quote:
Oh, and have fun with the Gray box; an old friend I never tire of.





Thanks, I intend to.

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Jorkens
Great Reader

Norway
2950 Posts

Posted - 02 Aug 2007 :  08:03:04  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

The first book is the most combat heavy, but the action is evenly spread out throughout the book. No five page long duels and such. The other two books are more intrigue based as the plot evolves.


That's good to know. I'm not fond of duels that take pages to describe, and if the other two novels are intrigue based, that's all the better.

quote:
Oh, and have fun with the Gray box; an old friend I never tire of.





Thanks, I intend to.



Well, it would be more correct to say that the plot becomes an soapopera, but an entertaining one. There is quite a bit of action in the other two as well, but the first one is the fast paced adventure tale. Think the first Star Wars trilogy. Now, I will stop baiting your curiosity and let you go on with the reading. If you are interested in giants at all, this is going to be your dream-read.
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

USA
1089 Posts

Posted - 03 Aug 2007 :  04:10:30  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Lastly, I have to mention that it's pretty cool to finally learn who, exactly, this "Avner of Hartsvale" is. He's referred to in the Erevis Cale books, and now I get to see him in action, as a teenager.



That reminds me, I noticed "Avner of Hartsvale" on the list of Chosen of Mask in the "Adventuring Companies of the Realms" thread. I can't find my copy of "The Crucible" but Dragon 245 lists Avner of Hartwick as Mask's Seraph of Thieves. Are these two different characters, a typo, or did their names get mixed up somewhere along the way?

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 :  08:26:54  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
My memory is a bit rusty, but as far as I remember Hartwick is a settlement of Hartsvale. One way to look at it would be that within the vale, Avner is known as of Hartwick, whilst in the other lands of Faerun he is known as Avner of Hartsvale, as the area is little enough known as it is without confusing people with refering to a single settlement.
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 :  15:34:49  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

My memory is a bit rusty, but as far as I remember Hartwick is a settlement of Hartsvale. One way to look at it would be that within the vale, Avner is known as of Hartwick, whilst in the other lands of Faerun he is known as Avner of Hartsvale, as the area is little enough known as it is without confusing people with refering to a single settlement.



Thanks Jorkens, that's a reasonable explanation.

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Xysma
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 :  15:38:10  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
You know, it's really interesting how tastes can change over the years. I started reading the Shadow of the Avatar trilogy a couple of years ago and kind of got bored, lost interest, or got sidetracked somewhere near the middle of the second book. I picked it up again a couple of days ago and I am now absolutely engrossed in it, it's a really spectacular book.

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initiate
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 04 Aug 2007 :  19:34:58  Show Profile  Visit initiate's Homepage Send initiate a Private Message
I have just finished Elaine Cunningham's trilogy "Counsellors and Kings", which I enjoyed very much. As usual, the characters were wonderfully engaging. All three of Elaine's major series seem to focus on a duo, one of whom is generally somber and serious, while the other is more mischievous and whimsical. Yet all of these people have distinct personalities. Yet again Elaine Cunningham has crafted characters to stand among my Realms favourites.

I've heard some people, (on Amazon, mostly), complain that the end of "The Wizardwar" is rushed. I sort of agree, but not really. I did find the whirlwind quality of the ending a little disorienting, and think that ten or so more pages would have done the story some good, but when you consider the pace of the story overall its not really that big a problem. Despite the fact that the books focus a lot on political maneuvering, the plot whips along at a quick and very gripping pace. Because of the fast clip of the story, I didn't find the end to be a rush so much as a crescendo, and a building of intensity to a point at which a whole bunch of things happen all at once. Very pulse-pounding and engaging while not sacrificing to much depth.

One thing that I noticed relative to a lot of Elaine's other work, was that, upon reaching the end, I did not immediately begin frantically wondering if a sequel was in the works. Of course I'd be happy to see a short story or something taking place a few years after, updating the lives of the characters, the political situation in Halruaa, and the activities of certain shadowy folk in that land, but I don't feel the need for such in the way that I did with Liriel's story. "Counsellors and Kings" is probably Elaine's most self-contained work, and I found myself really appreciating that on finishing.

I have now read all of Elaine's published Realms novels, save for some bits of "Evermeet". Nooooooo!

Not only does the tale provide great insights into Halruaa, insights available nowhere else so far as I know, it is a captivating Realms story. Any who haven't read it should.


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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 :  00:33:28  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
Well, it would be more correct to say that the plot becomes an soapopera, but an entertaining one. There is quite a bit of action in the other two as well, but the first one is the fast paced adventure tale. Think the first Star Wars trilogy. Now, I will stop baiting your curiosity and let you go on with the reading. If you are interested in giants at all, this is going to be your dream-read.



Yes, I like giants. :) I like the firbolg protagonist, Tavis, and not just because he's a firbolg. He's honest to a fault, but I find it rather endearing. I was upset at the way Brianna treated him, and how she wouldn't even listen to his explanation about the book theft (!). I don't understand why supposed "strong female" characters are so often portrayed with such off-putting pigheadedness (seriously).

Anyway, "human orphan raised in Hartsvale by Tavis" sounds like a great idea for a character background, too.

As for the plot becoming a soap opera--actually, that makes me happy. RAS's Spine of the World was basically a romantic soap opera--many die-hard Drizzt fans hated it...and I loved it.

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 09 Aug 2007 00:42:11
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 :  00:42:42  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by initiate

Not only does the tale provide great insights into Halruaa, insights available nowhere else so far as I know, it is a captivating Realms story. Any who haven't read it should.






I agree, and I've always felt that series was underrated.

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DragonReader
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  17:01:41  Show Profile  Visit DragonReader's Homepage Send DragonReader a Private Message
I'm reading The Howling Delve right now. So far it is really good. Really grabbed my attention right from the get go. This is the 47th FR novel I have read and I have a bunch more on my shelves waiting...
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Delzounblood
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United Kingdom
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I've just started at the begining of the Harpers series again.
It's been ages since I've picked these up!

Delz
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  00:01:49  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
Finally started reading Swords of Dragonfire.

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Daniel of the North
Acolyte

Norway
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  15:42:38  Show Profile  Visit Daniel of the North's Homepage Send Daniel of the North a Private Message
Just finished The spine of the World, now I`ve started Servant of the Shard (an amazing book so far!).

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unknown warrior
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  18:33:21  Show Profile  Visit unknown warrior's Homepage Send unknown warrior a Private Message
just started reading exile book2 of the legend of drizzt the darkelf series. i loved homeland and i planning on buying ghostwalker soon. if there any books u think i should check out please don't hesitate.do keep in mind i'm read all of the drizzt books from start finish to get ready for the orc king next month.

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Germelia
Acolyte

Netherlands
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  19:05:12  Show Profile  Visit Germelia's Homepage Send Germelia a Private Message
Well, I've read the Dark Elf trilogy, the first two Elminster books and I'm currently about halfway through The Temptation of Elminster.. Still on the shelf: Elminster in Hell, Elminster's daughter, Shadow of the Avatar trilogy and Icewind Dale trilogy. Oh, and I ordered Cormyr: a novel.

Yes I know. I managed to buy a bunch second-hand though.

Any suggestions about the order I should read them?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 :  01:32:12  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by unknown warrior
if there any books u think i should check out please don't hesitate.


There are plenty of recommendation threads in this forum, feel free to search around.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 :  01:33:19  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Germelia

Well, I've read the Dark Elf trilogy, the first two Elminster books and I'm currently about halfway through The Temptation of Elminster.. Still on the shelf: Elminster in Hell, Elminster's daughter, Shadow of the Avatar trilogy and Icewind Dale trilogy. Oh, and I ordered Cormyr: a novel.

Yes I know. I managed to buy a bunch second-hand though.

Any suggestions about the order I should read them?



The Elminster books don't have to be read in order, but why not finish those up first?

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by unknown warrior
if there any books u think i should check out please don't hesitate.


There are plenty of recommendation threads in this forum, feel free to search around.



Perhaps the most thorough of these threads is this one: Experienced help for recommending FR Novels

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