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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 14 May 2007 :  00:24:10  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Sembia series has gotten a lot of hype... But so far, I've not found the books to be terribly impressive. I'm nearing the end of Sands of the Soul, but I've temporarily put it aside for a library book that finally came in yesterday.



I did not care for that book myself. Most of Tazi's novel didn't even take place in Sembia. Also, having a character like Tazi is a great chance to have a novel all about a rogue skulking around the seedier parts of the city at night, but we never got that novel either.



Well you get plenty of that in 'Shadow's Witness', iirc...




That's true (well, kind of--I was actually rather underwhelmed by the plot in "Shadow's Witness" as well), but I think Tazi's novel should have been like that as well. If you are going to start with an over-used concept (spoiled rich girl turns cat-burglar by night and robs her own peers), you might as well milk it for all it's worth and give us a rip-roaring urban rogue novel. I thought the actual plot--"plod along through the Calim Desert"--was a total drag.

Much like Wooly I don't really get all the hubbub over this series. Granted, I enjoyed most of the books, but some were lackluster and not quite as "kick-a**" as some feel they are. And I think it's a shame that they are literally being marketed as "The Gateway to the Realms".

PS: Interestingly enough, Dunsany, I actually thought the last book in the series was my favorite.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 14 May 2007 00:26:04
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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 14 May 2007 :  16:47:29  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
Given how at odds our opinions sometimes are (*assumes his slightly moth-eaten hypnotist persona "Give 'The Last Mythal' series another chance, Rinonalyrna... Give it another chance..." ) , I kind of expected that.

Oh, and I meant 'Shattered Mask' rather than 'Shadow's Witness' - though why I meant that when 'Shadow's Witness' is a better example, I just don't know.

Hmmm... between the two of you, you're doing a good job of challenging the way I see the series. Let me have one final go at arguing my side.

Admittedly, you both make perfectly valid points - I'll accept that the 'trudging through the Calim desert' moments are not, perhaps, the greatest in the FR canon certainly - but I think you might be missing the bigger picture...

The Sembia series' soap operatic qualities make it, I think, eminently readable and go some way to ameliorate the problems you've identified with. The fact that, although stand-alone stories, they are all linked by recurring characters is actually quite cool. The Uskevren family are well-drawn characters too - Tazi's character is a little bit more than just 'spoiled rich girl', for example - she's, initially at any rate, acting partly in response to a notably cold relationship between her parents. The interactions between the characters throughout the novels continue to give even the weak ones a certain extra interest that they wouldn't otherwise possess.

Of course, the fact that you're dealing with one family actually causes some problems for the writers - namely of the series becoming stale because the setting is the same for each book. Which is why, after the first two novels are set almost exclusively in Selgaunt (and most of the short story collection is too, iirc), they begin to branch out into other parts of Sembia and, later, other parts of the Realms and then, finally, another plane altogether. (I'd love to know just why you liked 'Lord of Stormweather' so much, RF... I really thought it was kind of... tepid.) I'd have preferred it, personally, if the city of Selgaunt and its surrounding countryside had been explored in a little more detail, but I do understand why the writers did what they did.

(And I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but I do have a review of 'Black Wolf' up on the main Candlekeep website if you're interested under my rl name... I'm pretty proud of it and I think it sums up nicely why I think that novel is the pick of the Sembia bunch...)

Enjoying the conversation, guys!

All the best!

JDD

"How content that young woman looks, don't you think? How content, and yet how flammable." - Lemony Snicket, The Unauthorized Autobiography

Edited by - J D Dunsany on 14 May 2007 16:55:45
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 15 May 2007 :  01:19:54  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Given how at odds our opinions sometimes are (*assumes his slightly moth-eaten hypnotist persona "Give 'The Last Mythal' series another chance, Rinonalyrna... Give it another chance..." ) , I kind of expected that.


Well, no one agrees on everything. I often find myself agreeing with you, too.

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Oh, and I meant 'Shattered Mask' rather than 'Shadow's Witness' - though why I meant that when 'Shadow's Witness' is a better example, I just don't know.


Don't worry about it. I loved Shattered Mask for a number of reasons--part of it is because Richard Lee Byers is a talented author and has a knack for writing engaging dialogue. I liked Shadow's Witness for it's characters, but it's actual plot didn't do all that much for me.

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Hmmm... between the two of you, you're doing a good job of challenging the way I see the series. Let me have one final go at arguing my side.

Admittedly, you both make perfectly valid points - I'll accept that the 'trudging through the Calim desert' moments are not, perhaps, the greatest in the FR canon certainly - but I think you might be missing the bigger picture...

The Sembia series' soap operatic qualities make it, I think, eminently readable and go some way to ameliorate the problems you've identified with. The fact that, although stand-alone stories, they are all linked by recurring characters is actually quite cool. The Uskevren family are well-drawn characters too - Tazi's character is a little bit more than just 'spoiled rich girl', for example - she's, initially at any rate, acting partly in response to a notably cold relationship between her parents. The interactions between the characters throughout the novels continue to give even the weak ones a certain extra interest that they wouldn't otherwise possess.


That's a fair enough point. I'm not trying to convince you (or anyone else, for that matter) not to like the book. If you liked that book--or the Last Mythal series--I'm happy for you, because I don't actively wish bad reading experiences on other people. But I'm sorry to say that neither Tazi's novel nor her character did that much for me. Of the two Uskevren girls, I much prefer Larajin, and her novel. The good parts of Larajin's character (her endurance, and willingness to go out of her way for others) impressed me enough to overlook the cheesier aspects of her book (ie. two goddesses helping Larajin a little too much).

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Of course, the fact that you're dealing with one family actually causes some problems for the writers - namely of the series becoming stale because the setting is the same for each book. Which is why, after the first two novels are set almost exclusively in Selgaunt (and most of the short story collection is too, iirc), they begin to branch out into other parts of Sembia and, later, other parts of the Realms and then, finally, another plane altogether. (I'd love to know just why you liked 'Lord of Stormweather' so much, RF... I really thought it was kind of... tepid.) I'd have preferred it, personally, if the city of Selgaunt and its surrounding countryside had been explored in a little more detail, but I do understand why the writers did what they did.


Trust me, I'm all for branching out a bit to freshen up a series, but somehow I didn't think the jaunt through the desert really worked. It just felt way out of step with the rest of the series. As for why I liked Lord of Stormweather, just look at my signature. I love dreams, and I love the idea dreams are in a way "real"--real places one can visit for a time. The novel was odd, but in a fascinating way.

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(And I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but I do have a review of 'Black Wolf' up on the main Candlekeep website if you're interested under my rl name... I'm pretty proud of it and I think it sums up nicely why I think that novel is the pick of the Sembia bunch...)

Enjoying the conversation, guys!

All the best!

JDD



I'm enjoying it too. I'll check out the review.

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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 16 May 2007 :  14:47:25  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
Well, if we agreed all the time on everything, where would the fun be?

That said, your post revealed that we do agree on two things.

Like youself, I found 'Shattered Mask' to be an enjoyable romp with, as you say, some wonderfully written characters and dialogue. The reconciliation between the two central characters at the end was particularly well-realised and the battle in the theatre was well done too. And you're right about Byers - he's an excellent author - although I think the only other thing I've read by him so far is an old 'Magic: The Gathering' novel.

The other thing we agree on (kind of) is Larajin. I think she (just) edges it over Tazi (although they both get crushed by Tazi's mother, whose name I can't remember right now - Shamur?), but, like you, I think the over-reliance on divine intervention to get her out of the various situations she finds herself in not only hurts the character but also the book. There are individual moments that stand out and work - the healing of the Avariel elf, for example - but the divine intervention happens too frequently and too conveniently to sit well with me. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it actually makes it harder to identify with the character and thus involve yourself in the story.

It's been too long since I read 'Lord of Stormweather' for me to comment on it, but, after Gross' phenomenal work on 'Black Wolf', I do remember being let down by the plotting of 'LoS'. Maybe I should pick it up and re-read it again and I might have something a bit more constructive to say.

Take care, RF! Thanks for taking the time to respond to my waffling...

All the best!

JDD

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Edited by - J D Dunsany on 16 May 2007 14:49:17
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 May 2007 :  00:31:50  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Well, if we agreed all the time on everything, where would the fun be?


Exactly.

quote:
That said, your post revealed that we do agree on two things.

Like youself, I found 'Shattered Mask' to be an enjoyable romp with, as you say, some wonderfully written characters and dialogue. The reconciliation between the two central characters at the end was particularly well-realised and the battle in the theatre was well done too. And you're right about Byers - he's an excellent author - although I think the only other thing I've read by him so far is an old 'Magic: The Gathering' novel.


Oh, you don't know what you're missing! If you like Byer's work, why not check out the Rogue Dragons trilogy and his new novel, Unclean? I enjoyed his stand alone novel "Black Bouquet" as well. And yes, the name of the Uskevren matriarch is Shamur.

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The other thing we agree on (kind of) is Larajin. I think she (just) edges it over Tazi (although they both get crushed by Tazi's mother, whose name I can't remember right now - Shamur?), but, like you, I think the over-reliance on divine intervention to get her out of the various situations she finds herself in not only hurts the character but also the book. There are individual moments that stand out and work - the healing of the Avariel elf, for example - but the divine intervention happens too frequently and too conveniently to sit well with me. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it actually makes it harder to identify with the character and thus involve yourself in the story.


It didn't sit too well with me either. But like I said, I liked the character, and I liked her enough for me to let the divine intervention stuff pass. Also, I'm quite taken with the idea of being a priestess of Sune and Hanali--in fact, I came up with that exact character concept for a particular character of mine long before I ever read about Larajin.

Sometimes I'll overlook aspects of a novel I dislike if I feel the book shines in other ways.

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It's been too long since I read 'Lord of Stormweather' for me to comment on it, but, after Gross' phenomenal work on 'Black Wolf', I do remember being let down by the plotting of 'LoS'. Maybe I should pick it up and re-read it again and I might have something a bit more constructive to say.


Only if you want to. Perhaps the book just didn't work for you. But like I said, I loved it because I loved the focus on dreams, and what they may reveal about the dreamer.

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Take care, RF! Thanks for taking the time to respond to my waffling...

All the best!

JDD



Same to you.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 18 May 2007 00:33:27
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DireGecko
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Posted - 19 May 2007 :  18:53:44  Show Profile  Visit DireGecko's Homepage Send DireGecko a Private Message
Hello!

Kinda new here and thought I'd make my first post here, listing what I own, read and (hopefully) figure out what to read next.

Anything marked with a * I haven't read yet, but with my new work schedule I'll have the time to read again.

The Icewind Dale Trilogy
Starlight + Shadows Trilogy
Return of the Archwizards *
Realms of Shadow
Sembia
Erevis Cale Trilogy
Shadowbred
War of the Spider Queen
Paths of Darkness
The Hunter's Blade Trilogy
Lady of Poison
Mistress of the Night *
Sacrifice of the Widow
The Cleric Quintet
The Dark Elf Trilogy
Legacy of the Drow
The Crimson Gold *
Realms of Magic *
The Magehound *
The Jewel of Turmish
The City of Ravens
The Avatar Trilogy
Evermeet; Island of the Elves
The City of Splendors
Shandril's Saga
The Lost Library of Cormanthyr
Finder's Bane *
The Druidhome Trilogy *
Unclean
The Best of the Realms
Pools Trilogy
The Year of Rogue Dragons
The Shadow Stone
Realms of the Dragons
Realms of Valor
Netheril Trilogy
Frostfell
Darkvision
Blackstaff * (My "friend" told me what happens and now I can't bring myself to read it. )
Depths of Madness
Realms of the Elves
The Last Mythal
Shadow of the Avatar
Ghostwalker
Master of Chains
Songs + Swords *
The Elminster Series *
The Cormyr Saga
Realms of Infamy
Realms of the Underdark
Moonshae Trilogy

Right now I'm reading non-FR books ! Vampire of the Mists and Dragons of Dwarven Depths, and I'm not sure what to take on next. Thinking Songs + Swords or Elminster (Love Elaine and Ed's writing!), and Realms of Magic will be my next "locker book" (book kept in my locker for break and lunch reading) for work.

Any input?
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Fillow
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I've read the French translations (which are sometimes cut !) of :
The Drizzt & Co novels
The "Phlan" Trilogy
The "Alias" trilogy
The Moonshae Trilogy & The Druidhome Trilogy
2 from the Elminster serie
2 from the Spellfire serie
The priest Pentalogy
3 from the Harpers Serie
and I'm now reading The "Matteo" Trilogy


So, around 45 novels and I'm ready to continue till the end !
In France the editor has "numerated" (is it a correct word?) the whole collection. Waterdeep is the N°1 and Resurection is the N°84. All the trilogy have been translated, the double-diamond serie also.
But there are a lot of novels which staid without translation... maybe one day...

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Dart Ambermoon
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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  02:15:28  Show Profile  Visit Dart Ambermoon's Homepage Send Dart Ambermoon a Private Message
DireGecko,

if you love Ed´s and Elaine´s writing, by all means, go after the series you mentioned.
But DO read "Blackstaff". It does Khelben proud and I would say it is an absolute "must-read".

"Magehound" is a the start of a really cool and different trilogy, too, in which Elaine shows her talents in a different atmosphere .
And if you feel like a fun read, praise great Finder in all his glory..er...I mean, give Finder´s Bane a shot.*wink*

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DireGecko
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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  10:14:19  Show Profile  Visit DireGecko's Homepage Send DireGecko a Private Message
Currently reading Elminster and The Gossamer Plain. So far so good. Will try to remember to make my way over to the book club for the latter book.

I will try to read Blackstaff at some point. I'm afraid that knowing what will happen to one of my favorite characters may ruin my enjoyment of the book.

Holding off on Magehound until I can get the other two books in the series. I have read good things about the series, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

Waiting for The Finder's Stone trilogy to show up in my mailbox. Should I read the trilogy then Finder's Bane? Or does it not matter what order the books are read in?
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Dart Ambermoon
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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  19:42:37  Show Profile  Visit Dart Ambermoon's Homepage Send Dart Ambermoon a Private Message
Well, you don´t "have to", but it would make a lot of sense if you did and I would recommend it that way. And the Finder´s Stone trilogy is among my faves as well. Great books.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  19:50:40  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by DireGecko

Waiting for The Finder's Stone trilogy to show up in my mailbox. Should I read the trilogy then Finder's Bane? Or does it not matter what order the books are read in?



The stories can be read in any order, but you'll have a better appreciation of Finder's Bane (and Tymora's Luck) if you read the Finder's Stone trilogy, first.

Besides, the Finder's Stone trilogy is simply one of the best trilogies written for the setting.

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DireGecko
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Posted - 23 May 2007 :  02:08:00  Show Profile  Visit DireGecko's Homepage Send DireGecko a Private Message
I'll be sure to read the Finder's Trilogy as soon as I can, and I've added Tymora's Luck to wish list.

Thanks to this site my list has grown by leaps and bounds. I'm never going to get caught up with my reading.
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Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by DireGecko

I'll be sure to read the Finder's Trilogy as soon as I can, and I've added Tymora's Luck to wish list.

Thanks to this site my list has grown by leaps and bounds. I'm never going to get caught up with my reading.



Masquerades is on your list, too, is it not? It's kind of a sequel to the Finder's Stone trilogy, with the same characters. (Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck only have one main character from the trilogy, though we see many of the others -- and their kids -- in interludes in TL).

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Dart Ambermoon
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Posted - 23 May 2007 :  09:03:46  Show Profile  Visit Dart Ambermoon's Homepage Send Dart Ambermoon a Private Message
Very true. If you like the style of the Finder´s Stone trilogy, then "Masquerades" is for you, as well. (Some luck Wooly is there to cover for my forgetfulness *g*.)

Ah, what would I give for another set of novels by Grubb and Novak...*sighs*

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Originally posted by Dart Ambermoon

Ah, what would I give for another set of novels by Grubb and Novak...*sighs*



Gods, yes! I'd love to see those two return to the Realms!

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DireGecko
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Posted - 23 May 2007 :  14:21:23  Show Profile  Visit DireGecko's Homepage Send DireGecko a Private Message
Masquerades is on my wish list now.
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All of R.A. Salvators books, most of Ed's books, most of Elaine's books

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Well, I finished Depths of Madness, Unclean, Best of Elaine, and Evermeet. That leaves me with only 60 Realms books left unread, I am getting there!

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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I FINALLY started reading the Erevis Cale trilogy. (). I own all the books, but I never got around to reading them. It's been a long time since I've read anything by Mr. Kemp, but I have to say I am impressed with what I've read so far of Twilight Falling. Mr. Kemp has a knack for writing poignant, character-driven scenes.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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scererar
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they are most excellent RF. I put them at the top of my realms favorites.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by scererar

they are most excellent RF. I put them at the top of my realms favorites.



I'm halfway through now, and it's been a great ride so far. :)

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  16:17:39  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
Almost finished 'Lady of Poison'. An interesting book - reasonably typical quest-type fantasy with a dash of intrigue about Marrec's 'heritage' thrown in. The prose is serviceable, if not particularly flashy and the setting's varied enough to keep you interested. (I like Ususi too - although having an Imiskari, an Oslander and a Nentyar hunter in the same travelling band does feel a tad too exotic at times. :) )

Perhaps the novel's greatest strength is the manner in which Cordell has fashioned a tale from some of the stronger elements of the 'Unapproachable East' sourcebook - volodni, blightlords, the Mucklestones, the Nentyarch and ancient Nar ruins all feature strongly in the book and it's kind of cool seeing how things like the blightlords' abilities are portrayed in fictional form.

In short, maybe not the best Realms novel, but by no means without merit. Provisionally recommended.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  22:36:48  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Perhaps the novel's greatest strength is the manner in which Cordell has fashioned a tale from some of the stronger elements of the 'Unapproachable East' sourcebook - volodni, blightlords, the Mucklestones, the Nentyarch and ancient Nar ruins all feature strongly in the book and it's kind of cool seeing how things like the blightlords' abilities are portrayed in fictional form.




It probably doesn't hurt that Cordell is the one who did a lot of work on that sourcebook. :)

Anyway, I thought his novel Darkvision was much better, even if there are some issues about whether or not that story fits well into the setting.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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J D Dunsany
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Perhaps the novel's greatest strength is the manner in which Cordell has fashioned a tale from some of the stronger elements of the 'Unapproachable East' sourcebook - volodni, blightlords, the Mucklestones, the Nentyarch and ancient Nar ruins all feature strongly in the book and it's kind of cool seeing how things like the blightlords' abilities are portrayed in fictional form.




It probably doesn't hurt that Cordell is the one who did a lot of work on that sourcebook. :)

Anyway, I thought his novel Darkvision was much better, even if there are some issues about whether or not that story fits well into the setting.



That would explain it!

Although Cordell's not listed as an official 'author' of the sourcebook (though he does acknowledge Baker, Reynolds and Forbeck in his foreword) - but then virtually everyone round here is more knowledgeable about these things than I am.

Anyway, I noticed twig blights making a reappearance here (from Cordell's 'Sunless Citadel' module), which was kind of cool.

Still enjoying it, incidentally - all sorts of demonic goings on. I'll give you a proper review when I've finished it.

Best!

JDD

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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 :  02:36:24  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
I look forward to reading it.

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Kyrene
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 :  07:34:19  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Almost finished 'Lady of Poison'.
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In short, maybe not the best Realms novel, but by no means without merit. Provisionally recommended.


I personally felt Lady of Poison was very interesting, but was still the weakest of the four "Priests" novels. In order of personal preference they would be:
  • Mistress of the Night
  • Maiden of Pain
  • Queen of the Depths
  • Lady of Poison

Also, I again found Darkvision interesting, but again the weakest of the "Wizards" series. I do blame the editor in both cases, since a lot of the bad jargon, grammatical errors and spelling mistakes should have been picked up, even if just running it through Microsoft® Word.

Personally, though I've received Depths of Madness, the "Rogue Dragons" trilogy and the first two "Sembia" reprints recently, I'm in the grips of NWN2 -- and will be for the foreseeable future. Depending on the "Sembia" books, I might spin off into the "Erevis Cale" trilogy, but I'll have to see.

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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 :  13:46:07  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Almost finished 'Lady of Poison'.
... snipped ...
In short, maybe not the best Realms novel, but by no means without merit. Provisionally recommended.



Also, I again found Darkvision interesting, but again the weakest of the "Wizards" series. I do blame the editor in both cases, since a lot of the bad jargon, grammatical errors and spelling mistakes should have been picked up, even if just running it through Microsoft® Word.



Yes, I'd have to agree with that. One or two of the FR books I've read have suffered from some really rather poor proof-reading/editing and Lady of Poison is definitely one of them. A shame.

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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 :  23:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
Heh, I'm reading the Erevis Cale series and playing NWN2 at the same time. :)

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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 :  08:55:41  Show Profile  Visit Vexxan's Homepage Send Vexxan a Private Message
After a bit of a hiatus from reading, I dove right back in with the Erevis Cale trilogy. With that devoured, I've backtracked to Shadow's Witness and begun that.

Still waiting for me are Shadowbred, Sands of the Soul, Lord of Stormweather (all three recently bought), the Starlight & Shadows trilogy, Servant of the Shard (Sellswords I), and Thousand Orcs/Lone Drow.
I buy them faster than I can read them.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 :  00:10:35  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
It's very easy to catch up though. ;)

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