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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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 Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 12:19:14
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| Exactly. If you look around, you'll find that I have often (and vehemently) insisted that the proper reading order is Icewind Dale and then Dark Elf. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 12:29:25
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I have read the series in both orders. There has never been any great level of disadvantage in reading them this way, other than a little confusion over background references.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 12:39:43
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| I just think that it's a lot better to read them in the published order the first time. It makes more sense. |
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Aeriden Raven
Acolyte
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Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 12:44:27
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Thank you both for your opinions. I knew that there was some disagreement about which series to read first 
Although it is off topic, I have one more question. I just started in the Crystal Shard (took an extra long lunchbreak ) and on page 20 it says (concerning Drizzt)Two hundred years of living many miles below ground had not been erased by five years on the sunlit surface
I seem to recall that Drizzt left Menzoberranzan around the age of 30/40? |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 17:35:08
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Just evidence of a new author, as well as which book was actually writen first. When he wrote that, he hadn't fully explored Drizzt's background. You find much of the same thing in other prequels to existing works. A big example is the Garion books, by David Eddings. (Note: David later credits his wife, Leigh, as a coauthor. Apparently he couldn't have done it without her help.)
Anyway, in the eighth book (fourth of five) two sorcerers mention in passing the time the younger of the two came into his power. They say that he had gotten angry at the older one (it's the key to the power at first) and directed the power at an unoffending tree. When the first of two prequels comes out (the life story of that older sorcerer) the younger one shows up already knowing how to use his power.
That mistake of Salvator's is just less noticable. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2003 : 20:08:49
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Well ive been hammering away at my FR backlog lately and since my last post on this topic, ive read...
Beyond the High Road
Death of the Dragon
Lord of Stormweather
Dragonwall
Crusade
Thornhold
Condemnation
Evermeet: Island of Elves
Spellfire
Spectre of the Black Rose (Ravenloft novel, shhh, dont tell Alaundo!)
and im now currently reading The Dream Spheres.
My next schedule contains:
Crown of Fire
Hand of Fire
The Alabaster Staff (just purchased today!)
I expect Twilight Falling to appear pretty soon and ill be getting into that straight away  |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2003 : 04:48:38
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You read Evermeet?
::rushes off to mark the large calander in the main lobby:: |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2003 : 13:59:21
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Good for you Rad  .
I noticed in your listing, Dragonwall and Crusade. I am assuming you also read Horselords, so I am curious as to your thoughts on the 'Empires' Trilogy. (Also, since you have read Spectre of the Black Rose, you should read Knight of the Black Rose also...if you haven't already).
::The Sage quickly casts 'improved invisibility', after hearing the distant echo of footsteps coming towards this reading chamber::
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2003 : 16:14:10
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
I am assuming you also read Horselords . . . .
Bookwyrm surreptitiously passes the Sage a scroll.
He then goes out into the hall, to see if those footsteps belong to Alaundo; he's been meaning to ask him if it would be alright to declare a holiday based on Rad actually, finally, reading Evermeet . . . . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2003 : 09:45:56
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::The Sage slowly reads over the scroll handed to him by the Bookwyrm. Embarassed, the Sage rolls up the scroll as he comes to the realisation that he has once again been visited by the trickster demon Absent-Mindedism::.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2003 : 16:58:25
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth
I am assuming you also read Horselords . . . .
Bookwyrm surreptitiously passes the Sage a scroll.
He then goes out into the hall, to see if those footsteps belong to Alaundo; he's been meaning to ask him if it would be alright to declare a holiday based on Rad actually, finally, reading Evermeet . . . .
Well spotted Bookwyrm
To answer your question Sage, I really enjoyed The Empires Trilogy... I wasnt really expecting much of it and thought id better read it for the sake of Realms history and was very pleasantly surprised! As for Knight of the Black Rose, yes I had read that a few years back, Spectre had a VERY good Ravenloft feel to it and some really disturbing and scarey scenes! Highly recommended. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 01 Jul 2003 : 02:22:47
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| Glad you liked Spectre, Rad. Jim and I had a fun time writing that one. |
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Dave_Gross
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
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Posted - 03 Jul 2003 : 05:52:15
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Appropos of nothing but self-interest, I'd like to plug a non-Realms project that just came out. If you enjoyed Black Wolf and Lord of Stormweather, you'll probably like T.H. Lain's latest opus, The Sundered Arms. I acted as his . . . ah, research assistant on the project. It's not a Realms novel, but it has much of the same blend of action, darkness, and humor of my previous books. Actually, it has a lot more per page, since all that's crammed into a much smaller book.
If you read it and like it, tell the rest of the Realms fans. If all the Sembia readers pick up a copy, we'll beat all of the other T.H. Lains' books!
Cheers,
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2003 : 13:48:46
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Yup, sounds good Dave. Ive been collecting the TH Lain books since they came out. Havent read any yet though (too much FR backlog to read first  ) but im looking forward to getting stuck into them |
Lord Rad
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2003 : 12:25:59
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you guys are so lucky
i have the absoulute worst luck when it comes to books, libraries dont stock them, people dont own them, and nowhere where i look can i find them
the only way to get them is by paying the equivalent of $25 and that is not counting postage and order charges 
then, to make it all worse, i cant afford to buy many books, simply doesn't make sense when you have to pay for everything yourself
*considers moving in with his parents again |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2003 : 12:46:46
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Used book stores. Everything's at least half price. I got some of my best books in such places, and often they're in good condition.
Of course, I do still live with my parents. No overhead. On the flip side, I don't have a job (being a full-time student) and I have to obey my father . . . He can be a real pain in the unmentionable body parts. I won't give examples, but it mostly revolves around how he's convinced he's right, and won't back down no matter what; even if he seems to, he makes it all your fault, so you still feel like you lost the argument.
Okay, that was way too much of a rant. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 07:57:45
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my dad used to like FR as much as i did and read all the books i got, which was cool
maybe i didn't convey it well in my last post, but even book stores here don't stock them to the only way to get them is by ordering which incurs an added cost..
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 08:04:05
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No, actually, I've never met anyone else like that. I've talked to a lot of my friends over the years. To give you a minor example, I once asked him, in fifth grade (grade six for non-Americans) what 'DNA' stood for. Now, it seems to be against his nature to admit that he doesn't know something, so he told me that it didn't stand for anything.
That struck me as absurd. "DNA" wasn't a word, it was an acronym. I didn't know what the word acronym was, and couldn't associate it with DNA, but I knew that DNA had to stand for somthing. So did my mother, who was there; however, she couldn't think of it. And we weren't in a place where we could look it up; and when we were, we'd forgotten about it.
Then, of course, a short time later I read Jurrasic Park. In it is the whole thing: deoxyribonucleic acid. (As well as, of course, RNA, or ribonucleic acid.) I took it to my father, showed him the passage, and asked him -- since he'd read it at the time I'd asked him -- why he said it didn't stand for anything. I could understand him not knowing how to pronounce it (it took me years to do that, partly because I'm slightly dislexic) but he should have at least known from the book that it stood for something. He was the one who said I'd enjoy it.
He said he'd never said it didn't stand for anything.
See what I mean? He can't be wrong. He refuses to be. If nothing else, he'll tell us we were mistaken, and the issue in question never happened.
Of course, the really sickening bit is how he always favors my brat of a sister. (Neutral Evil, I'm telling you -- and this is no exageration.) No matter what, she can't be at fault. If you've read Harry Potter, she's an only-moderately-toned-down, female, athletic, and prettier version of Dudley Dursley. Fortunately, only one parent is so enamored of her.
However, I've ranted far too long on a personal subject. I shouldn't say any more. In fact, I shouldn't even have posted this, but I'm doing it anyway. |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 14:13:46
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I for one am glad ye did,
I always enjoy gainging insights into other people. I am also pleased ye feel comfortable enough to share that kind of thing with us
Used to have problems with my brother. Sod was Lawful Good for sure. I'm chaotic good, and i dont like people being holier than me
That changed though, we're friends now (meaning im in a different country making it harder for me to not get along with him) |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 15:09:02
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I'm surprised, but I'm glad at least one person didn't mind.
To move the subject back to books, what country do you live in, if you don't mind my asking? I'm curious as to what barbarous country wouldn't stock any Forgotten Realms books! |
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 16:49:17
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Well Met! I just found these forums. As far as my collection it is currently Complete!!! I am waiting For Twilight Falling to hit the Stores. As to reading I am not quite done. I still have to read the Double Diamond Triangle saga, The Pools books and the Sembia series. I have read all of the other books though. Currently I am reading Temple Hill.+
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Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it. |
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Malanthius
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 10:48:44
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Well let's see,
All of the Ra Salvatore Drizzt series up to just before the thousand orcs, the councilars and kings, I've read two of the arcane age, all of the return of the archwizards, the entire avatar series so far (are they planning to make another sequal to that?) some of the lost empires, one of the nobles (the Symbul's Gift);Realms of magic, Realms of infamy, Once around the realms (volo novel), two of the novels based on the Baldur's Gate series, Finder's Bane... That's about it. :) |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 12:11:03
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Bookwyrm: im in the UAE, emigrated and here they chop scenes out of movies that contain 'censored' scenes, they ban books with sensitive content, any religous material which is not of their chosen faith is outlawed etc.
I make it sound bad, but there are other things that make this a great place to live, but it just doesn't stock books, at least not affordable ones
I did manage to get the IWD trilogy thought, from Kazaa (cirnge!!!) but its the only way
i still feel bad though |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 18:33:01
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| Yes, I see, now that you've put your country up on the profile. Are you missing a lot of source books as well? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 02:46:09
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Yes, let us know about what you are missing MuadDib. We may be able to direct you to places on the internet that can legally provide for you what you are missing.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 03:05:43
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Or to a well-placed rogue . . . . I have a few connections . . . .
Kidding! (Don't hurt me, Alaundo! ) |
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How up to date are you with reading FR novels?
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