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Starshade
Learned Scribe
Norway
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 Posted - 18 Apr 2015 : 19:20:14
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There is many forms of undeath in movies, literature, etc. But is there any who is heritable in FR, that is, the undead creatures actually is still able to get children, and the trait could get herited?
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2015 : 20:02:47
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| Hmm I don't think so. Procreating is something only living things can do, unless of course magic is used. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Apr 2015 : 22:10:47
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Look... if you mean "half-vampires" "adorable daywalking abominations", just say so. 
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Yes, both half-vampires and skindancers exist in the Realms, but both are rather rare
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Tanthalas
Senior Scribe
Portugal
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Posted - 18 Apr 2015 : 22:47:52
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| Hmm, surprised that some undead are able to prcreate in the FR. |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 00:51:09
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Originally posted by Tanthalas
Hmm, surprised that some undead are able to prcreate in the FR.
It is rather weird.
In D&D, everyone is given a soul at birth. Souls in D&D are supposed to be made of positive energy. Positive energy is the antithesis of negative energy. Undead are formed from negative energy.
One would think the energies would have trouble coexisting. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 04:40:48
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Undead typically have other, unnatural methods of procreating their kind.
Still, no reason not to accuse somebody of being a real son of a lich. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 05:33:31
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Half-Vampire
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and as far as I know there are no rules stating that you can't have offspring in an undead state though I'd venture that most DMs wouldn't permit it unless under extreme circumstances.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12194 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 16:47:59
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| I'd pretty much go with it requires some form of shapechange magic, plus some powerful ritual to pass along the qualities of the shape you used to be.... or something similarly weird so its amazingly uncommon. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 17:50:19
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I once wrote a short story with a half-vampire; at that time, the only flavor of half-vampire I'd seen before was the Marvel character Blade.
The angle I went for my guy was that his father was a vampire who decided he wanted a child, and he rather vigorously pursued that goal by kidnapping women to be in his harem. (I was much younger and focused on that goal, and totally did not even think of what that would be like for the women)
The vampire kept trying, and it kept not working... So he began rather devoutly praying to his world's god of evil (another concept I now dislike). One day, this deity heard him, and decided to honor the prayer -- so one of the vampire's captives got pregnant.
The mother escaped, the boy grew up normal but eventually figured out that he had some abilities in common with vampires, and some immunities to their powers, so he became a vampire hunter.
The whole point of the story was the half-vampire and his human half-brother finding another vampire to slay, doing it, and then the half-brother reads the vampire's journal and hands it to the half-vampire, revealing he just killed his own father, at which point the story ends.
I came up with all that when I was like 17... I've never done anything else with it; I now dislike most of the concepts I came up with for the story. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 18:42:34
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I, personally, don't like the idea of undead being able to procreate. Undead are, first and foremost, dead.
That said, I don't see any problem with some sort of powerful and long-lasting curse on a particular bloodline that condemns each member of the family to become some specific type of undead when they die. It sounds like the kind of nastiness some genies would dish out for a slight, as well as possibly some more powerful types of fiend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 20:42:34
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
I, personally, don't like the idea of undead being able to procreate. Undead are, first and foremost, dead.
I concur. I personally question how blood can flow to certain portions of the anatomy when there is a distinct lack of blood and no mechanism to make it flow. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12194 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2015 : 20:50:13
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
I, personally, don't like the idea of undead being able to procreate. Undead are, first and foremost, dead.
That said, I don't see any problem with some sort of powerful and long-lasting curse on a particular bloodline that condemns each member of the family to become some specific type of undead when they die. It sounds like the kind of nastiness some genies would dish out for a slight, as well as possibly some more powerful types of fiend.
Now, this is a good idea. They might keep their ancestors around out of love (or fear). They might have to keep it secret from their neighbors. This could be really good. In fact, perhaps Velsharoon had children in life (of which we know little) and he "blessed" them and their progeny to survive after death as undead.... perhaps because when they grew up, they had turned against him. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 : 01:52:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I personally question how blood can flow to certain portions of the anatomy when there is a distinct lack of blood and no mechanism to make it flow.
I could point out the obvious counter-examples, but nevermind. 
Which leaves, what - vampires and ghosts?
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Now, this is a good idea. They might keep their ancestors around out of love (or fear).
Or simply being practical about it. People get used to just about anything. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2015 : 17:08:48
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Or they could go to the other extreme and become a family of undead hunters, hoping to put as many in the ground as they can before they inevitably join their ranks. Could lead to a character with a new angle for angst.
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Starshade
Learned Scribe
Norway
279 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2015 : 11:31:37
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| The idea was something along the lines of a "family curse", something fit for storyline NPC, as a story seed useful to get the story going, introduce a big bad evil guy (the ancestor), etc. |
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