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perlmugp
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 24 Jan 2015 : 18:51:55
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When I open the map in google docs and zoom in to view the map in detail, some of the location names wash out against the background, especially words located over forest and mountain regions.
EDIT: ah, I found a way around the washout effect. I just needed to zoom in more.
I like the hex grid layout. Hearkens back to the old days. I also really like the level of detail.
Your motivates me to get working on my Current Clack writeups for Neverwinter, because maps (for me) are about the best thing ever when it comes to jumpstarting my imagination.
Looking forward to your next installment, and to a fully realized map of that part of the Realms.
Great work! :D |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2015 : 03:28:21
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Nice work, and an ambitious project. I'm also looking forward to seeing it.  |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2015 : 15:08:26
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| Nice maps! Keep the good work! |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
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Lead by example.
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2015 : 16:27:49
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Yeah, I've got it as a big vector map so I can really rework zoomed regions pretty easily. I'm thinking of setting up a little google maps style site of it once I'm a little farther along if I can find the right javascript.
If I ever get through the canon stuff in the regions I care about I'm game. |
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perlmugp
Seeker
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1152 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2015 : 22:52:58
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| Now, that zoomable map is impressive. Kudos. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 29 Jan 2015 : 23:53:36
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Very nice work. Not to be a nitpicker, but a few things.
Where are the Ceranda Hills, northwest of Elturel from?
You misspelled Anga Vled, Asbravn, Cragmyr Keep, and Lathtarl's Lantern.
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perlmugp
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 00:40:06
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They are from Markustay's map, and he got them from Crypt of the Shadowking, I think. (http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17382)
Thanks for the corrections.
Edit - Okay, I dug a little more. Asher is from Crypt of the Shadowking and is in a valley between hills much like I have it, but that book doesn't mention a name for those hills that I could find. So the hills seem good just not the name, unless someone else can find the source.
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 11:39:29
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Besides Markus Taylor's great work there's been several other cartographers who've taken their shots at the regions you're covering. Some of which you can find in the map room here on the 'Keep.
Have you seen those ? :
http://www.candlekeep.com/images/gallery/yack_swordcoast-south.jpeg
http://www.candlekeep.com/downloads/north_pt4.jpg
note that Qheldin's Mask (half-way between Scornubel and Berdusk on the River Chionthar) is missing on all of them, and that the Twin Towers are often mistakenly placed in the Cloud Peaks (when they should actually be in the Small Teeth).
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« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 11:42:23
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http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bgtscc/images/6/69/Westheartlands.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121010011100
I believe this one is from HandsomeRob who's also made some truly great maps! |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 11:44:47
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http://www.realmshelps.net/faerun/lore/elminster/tatha.shtml Aloum Lyndren is missing from the Heartlands maps too.
Also, will you make this available as a layered file where one would be able to toggle the hexes on and off? How about the Underdark of the regions you are covering? Any plans on including it? Once again: Great work!
I'm thinking different time periods could be different layers.
Edit: sorry for the multiple edits and posts. I'm a little fragmented atm.
You might want to look out for Markus Taylor's map coming out with George and Eric's High Forest net/source-book. |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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perlmugp
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 15:35:25
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Thanks for all the notes, I'll add those into the map.
I'm not sure about a layered file, that would get kind of crazy size-wise, but I am thinking about having layers that could be turned on and off on the zoomable map, that won't be too difficult to do when I get the area I'm working on a little more finished.
That netbook sounds interesting I will be keeping an eye out for that. |
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 16:04:03
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You're very welcome! ^_^ . I believe Elliott Zastrow did the layer-thing for his Waterdeep map (also in the 'Keep's Map Room).
Are you going to make the map bigger than your last update (more to the east and a little more to the south)? |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 18:45:33
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Very nice work. Not to be a nitpicker, but a few things.
Where are the Ceranda Hills, northwest of Elturel from?
-- George Krashos
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Originally posted by perlmugp
They are from Markustay's map, and he got them from Crypt of the Shadowking, I think. (http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17382)
Edit - Okay, I dug a little more. Asher is from Crypt of the Shadowking and is in a valley between hills much like I have it, but that book doesn't mention a name for those hills that I could find. So the hills seem good just not the name, unless someone else can find the source.
I'll have to check my notes - I thought the hills were from the same source. Hopefully I posted where somewhere on the web - I wasn't as good at taking notes then, and the notes I did take (back then) are all gone now.
Its canon though, because that isn't a name I would 'just come up with'. It may have just been a single hill that I used for a range (I recall something about a hill there... can't quite place my finger on the source... it'll come to me). The first place I'd check (after CotSK) is that short story with Rysheos (it took place across that same region). Might also check Volo's guide to the Swordcoast.
EDIT: On the FRIA map, there is a 'Hill of the Headless Dancer' on that spot, and that would probably be the eastern-most hill in that small chain. I think what I may have done is combine three different bits of lore to come up with that (Asher was in a valley - which implies hills - and there is that one hill on the FRIA map). I still have to figure out where I got 'Ceranda' from.  |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Jan 2015 : 19:51:46
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Originally posted by perlmugp
I'm not sure about a layered file, that would get kind of crazy size-wise, but I am thinking about having layers that could be turned on and off on the zoomable map, that won't be too difficult
This sounds like it would be a lot of work.
It would also be really kick ass.
I hope the next version of Candlekeep has a Kudos or Thank You or XP button. I would throw much XP your way for the map work you're doing, because it's instantly useful to DMs, players and Realmslore junkies. |
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Falcon
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 31 Jan 2015 : 21:07:23
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Hi!
Really great maps!!
A quick question though, what are the size of the hexes? |
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perlmugp
Seeker
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Posted - 31 Jan 2015 : 21:20:48
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| They are 5 mile hexes. |
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Falcon
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 31 Jan 2015 : 21:26:57
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 02 Feb 2015 : 11:04:51
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More missing locations:
- Vehlarr in the Wood of Sharp Teeth (formerly Glimmerwood)
- Firewine Bridge (close to Gullykin)
- Lost Shavinar (between the Troll Hills and the Chionthar)
- Nordahaeril (High Forest)
- Sunrise Spire (West of Anga Vled)
- Moonrise Towers (East of Anga Vled)
- Citadel of Strategic Militancy (North of Baldur's Gate)
- Ebenfar (High Moor)
- Dragonrise Keep (south of Easting)
The text has glitched oddly on some names. For example: Fell Pass and The Old Man
I'm not sure I understand the logic behind the sizing and orientation (tilt) of all the toponyms.
Do you have access to the FR Interactive Atlas?
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« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 02 Feb 2015 : 11:08:07
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| If it's alright with Markus Taylor I'll also post this link to a sneak peek of his Eric Boyd map: http://s5.photobucket.com/user/MarkusTay/media/Map%20Snippets/Sneak_Peak_zpsa2a4bd54.jpg.html (if not I'll remove it asap). |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Feb 2015 : 11:30:27
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| Perhaps, if you're worried about revealing a WiP before it's time, you should ask *before* you post. Just sayin'. |
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2015 : 14:53:48
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Originally posted by Duneth Despana
The text has glitched oddly on some names. For example: Fell Pass and The Old Man
I'm not sure I understand the logic behind the sizing and orientation (tilt) of all the toponyms.
Do you have access to the FR Interactive Atlas?
Also: Arylon is technically fanon, no?
I'm aware of the glitchy text, I just wanted to get something out there so I could input, like you've been giving me.
A lot of the text size and orientation is just a matter of making it fit. Eventually I will standardize that stuff and get some of the text on separate layers that can be turned on and off.
I have the FR interactive atlas somewhere, probably my old computer. Years ago I started trying on doing something like this based of that program, but the programming was a lot tougher back then. I'm guessing a lot of the locations you just gave me came from that.
You're right I believe Arylon and the Unicorn sanctuary and the little stream are all fanon. I'll probably have that pulled off and maybe on its own layer too. |
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2015 : 19:33:09
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| I've updated the zoomable worldmap (https://88e54b460ed7328ee3144570a63a7fc8b79babc3.googledrive.com/host/0By_eTj_S2V5WbExocmI5elNCbXc/faerun.html), the zoom is a little better and I've started adding layer markers that can be turned on and off for the cities and roads. There is also a scale marker in the lower left corner that should be fairly accurate at any zoom. The grid also only shows up when you get more zoomed in. I haven't yet updated the location info that's already been mentioned in this thread. I wanted to make sure I had a grasp on the technical back end before I kept going forward. |
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2015 : 21:49:28
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| On another note, does anyone know anything about Jundar's Hill? A couple of the old Realms books give practically identical descriptions of Jundar's Hill and the IronFord. Was this an accident, is Jundar's Hill next to the IronFord, does the Bargewright Inn rest on it? Or was it just a typo and Jundar's Hill is meant to be elsewhere, there is a Jundar's Pass to the northeast of IronFord. There is also a Jundar's Hill on a fan-map farther north towards Triboar (not sure if this was a mistake or based on something). |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Feb 2015 : 11:21:57
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| There's not a lot on Jundar's Hill itself. The Bargewright is on it and Ironford was the bridge that crossed the ford beneath the Hill. The Bargewright overlooked said bridge. |
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
273 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2015 : 12:05:12
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
Perhaps, if you're worried about revealing a WiP before it's time, you should ask *before* you post. Just sayin'.
I don't really know why I wrote it that way since Markus already posted the link himself in another threat.
Maybe I thought he would have liked the honour of being the one to post it in this one, or something.
Anyway, it wasn't about spoilers (in which case I certainly would have asked before even mentioning it). Sorry. I was maladroit.
ooh!.. and since I'm on a roll of referencing other people's work ;-P DM divinity did this map of the savage frontier which has some locations missing on the OP map http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1143/savagefrontiermapeditfl.jpg
Don't worry , perl, about not having fully updated the map yet. What you've already done is really great! The hex grid being taken away when you zoom out, to me, makes for a way less cluttered impression. Nice!
I love how you get the whole planisphere when you zoom all the way out. ^_^ |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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