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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 20 Dec 2014 : 16:36:16
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One of my on-again, off-again projects is currently on-again, and I am working on the background for a particular NPC.
What I need is a Cormyrian noble family, with interests -- and perhaps a branch of the family -- in Waterdeep. It needs to be enough of a connection that it would not be unreasonable for a second or third son of the Cormyrian family to be sent to Waterdeep, where he would have some influence on the family's interests.
This would not be an exile, either, more a case of "his talents are wasted here, because of his elder brother(s), but he could do us some good in Waterdeep."
I want to use this connection to transplant this NPC from Cormyr to Waterdeep; he would be accompanying the noble son, but is not nobility himself.
This project is set in the 1375ish era, but can be readily moved to the 4E/5E era with just a couple of tweaks.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 20 Dec 2014 : 17:11:10
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Roaringhorns. Branches in both Cormyr and the City of Splendors.
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2014 : 19:51:18
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Roaringhorns. Branches in both Cormyr and the City of Splendors.
-- George Krashos
That was the only one I saw on my perusal of the Waterdeep material... Are the two branches close enough for this idea? |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2014 : 22:41:14
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The Rallyhorns are another example.
Some of them came to Waterdeep after Azoun V enacted the Suzail Writ, and with it diminished noble power in Cormyr.
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
That was the only one I saw on my perusal of the Waterdeep material... Are the two branches close enough for this idea?
I'm not George, but I can tell you the Roaringhorns have been in both Waterdeep and Cormyr for several centuries. So much so it's not known for sure in which place the family first attained noble status.
They are "distantly related" (according to the Eye on the Realms article "The Hunter of False Nobles" by Ed Greenwood), whereas the Rallyhorns are still close in blood ties. |
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Rymac
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 02:51:58
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| Just curiously, is there a noble family that hits the trifecta? Cormyr, Waterdeep, and Tethyr? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 04:53:06
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Originally posted by Rymac
Just curiously, is there a noble family that hits the trifecta? Cormyr, Waterdeep, and Tethyr?
There's a lot more noble families in Waterdeep with close ties to Tethyr, I believe, than there are Cormyrean families with ties to Tethyr. |
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 17:23:51
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@Rymac: I know the Thann family from Waterdeep has some members in Tethyr, but since they are merchants, they could have some sort of hand in Cormyr too? I don't know if that is possible from cannon lore, but you could always houserule it.
@Wooly: Maybe you could make up a family that is noble in Cormyr, and is trying to attain noble status in Waterdeep?
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Rymac
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 22 Dec 2014 : 06:59:38
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's a lot more noble families in Waterdeep with close ties to Tethyr, I believe, than there are Cormyrean families with ties to Tethyr.
I hate answering my own question! ' '
It dawned on me coming home Sunday night. I recalled there was a Roaringhorn in Tethyr. Holver Roaringhorn, Count of Valashar. Granted, it's from the 2nd edition Lands of Intrigue boxed set, so the lore may be out of date at this point (if we're talking the Forgotten Realms of 4th or 5th edition D&D). |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 14:18:15
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And Ed contributes this:
If you're playing a Realms campaign set at the end of the 1400s, Holver's great-grandson Rauthrel is Count, is married with three young children (son Faeren, daughters Ilyth and the baby Avreene), and is still very much a resident of Tethyr.
Holver's father was Galdant, his father was Rorel, and Rorel's father was Holver.
There are flourishing Roaringhorn families in both Waterdeep and Cormyr. If you're looking for dashing adventurer (or interested in investing in adventurers) types, the swordsman and bon vivant Sereld Roaringhorn and his femme fatale sister Reldaera are socially prominent in Waterdeep, and Eskendur and his younger brother Orlond are fighting and adventuring types in Cormyr.
Yes, I keep notes. ;}
So saith Ed. Hope this is of help!
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 14:20:49
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Oh, and I should say that Ed hinted that there's a problem or two brewing in Waterdeep that all of you may learn more about eventually, and the Roaringhorns, like many other noble and non-noble Waterdhavian families, will be affected by it or caught up in it or very much interested in it. But of course, NDA rise like a wall of hostile shields . . .
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 15:06:36
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Oh, and I should say that Ed hinted that there's a problem or two brewing in Waterdeep that all of you may learn more about eventually, and the Roaringhorns, like many other noble and non-noble Waterdhavian families, will be affected by it or caught up in it or very much interested in it. But of course, NDA rise like a wall of hostile shields . . .
love,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 15:21:59
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
And Ed contributes this:
If you're playing a Realms campaign set at the end of the 1400s, Holver's great-grandson Rauthrel is Count, is married with three young children (son Faeren, daughters Ilyth and the baby Avreene), and is still very much a resident of Tethyr.
Holver's father was Galdant, his father was Rorel, and Rorel's father was Holver.
There are flourishing Roaringhorn families in both Waterdeep and Cormyr. If you're looking for dashing adventurer (or interested in investing in adventurers) types, the swordsman and bon vivant Sereld Roaringhorn and his femme fatale sister Reldaera are socially prominent in Waterdeep, and Eskendur and his younger brother Orlond are fighting and adventuring types in Cormyr.
Yes, I keep notes. ;}
So saith Ed. Hope this is of help!
love,
THO
Some good lore, my Lady, and it is appreciated... But what I am specifically looking for is a Cormyrean noble family with an active enough connection to their Waterdhavian relatives that sending a younger son from Cormyr to assist with business in Waterdeep wouldn't be a big deal.
With branches that are firmly entrenched in both places and have been there a while, it's not as likely that a relative from one branch would be accepted and given responsibilities by the other branch, I'm thinking -- unless the families actively make a practice of sending members back and forth. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 18:36:09
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From my playing experiences, the Roaringhorns in the mid 1300s DR had close ties back and forth between Cormyr and Waterdeep, cooperating on trade and investments, and younger family members got sent in both directions once a year or two on such matters and to "learn how the others live, and what their home turf is like," with occasional less-planned journeys when a Roaringhorn got into trouble with the authorities or senior family members (the easiest thing to do was pack them off to the other place, to live there for a time while things cooled down, or while a particular uncle or aunt "took them under wing" and taught /showed them a thing or two).
The families that I recall that have branches in both Cormyr and Waterdeep are the Rallyhorns and the Roaringhorns - - and although they lack noble standing in Waterdeep, a handful of Goldswords fled Cormyr in a hurry following the events of CORMYR: A NOVEL and took up residence in Waterdeep, living and behaving as they always did (i.e. as arrogant, freely-spending nobility).
I'll ask Ed if there are any other families represented in both places, that can fit your needs.
love,
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2014 : 19:08:52
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
From my playing experiences, the Roaringhorns in the mid 1300s DR had close ties back and forth between Cormyr and Waterdeep, cooperating on trade and investments, and younger family members got sent in both directions once a year or two on such matters and to "learn how the others live, and what their home turf is like," with occasional less-planned journeys when a Roaringhorn got into trouble with the authorities or senior family members (the easiest thing to do was pack them off to the other place, to live there for a time while things cooled down, or while a particular uncle or aunt "took them under wing" and taught /showed them a thing or two).
The families that I recall that have branches in both Cormyr and Waterdeep are the Rallyhorns and the Roaringhorns - - and although they lack noble standing in Waterdeep, a handful of Goldswords fled Cormyr in a hurry following the events of CORMYR: A NOVEL and took up residence in Waterdeep, living and behaving as they always did (i.e. as arrogant, freely-spending nobility).
I'll ask Ed if there are any other families represented in both places, that can fit your needs.
love,
THO
Actually, my Lady, this serves my needs well enough! (Well, my needs for lore, that is... We can discuss the rest.  )
Thank you for the information, O Hooded Temptress, and best wishes for a Merry Christmas to you and Ed! |
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