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Plaguescarred
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  15:34:31  Show Profile Send Plaguescarred a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello fellow scribes! I remember some time ago reading a post detailing s rundown of what happened during The Sundering in one of the scroll but i can't find it anymore and don't recall which scribe penned it. It mentioned which deity returned in Murder in Baldur's Gate what transpired in Crystal Shard etc...

Anyone recall?

Yan
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Edited by - Plaguescarred on 14 Oct 2014 15:35:32

Irennan
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  15:38:07  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19166

The events in ''The Herald'' are missing tho.

There's also the timeline thread http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19630

However, as far as I understand, the novels/adventures etc only cover a small part of what happened during the Sundering (the rest being still unrevealed to us).


Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.

Edited by - Irennan on 14 Oct 2014 15:40:38
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Plaguescarred
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  17:38:09  Show Profile Send Plaguescarred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's it thanks a lot Irennan!

Yan
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Plaguescarred
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  23:19:28  Show Profile Send Plaguescarred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone has a recap of what resulted from The Herald?

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Tanthalas
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  01:00:03  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
***Spoilers for The Herald***








- Shade Enclave fell on top of Myth Drannor, presumably annihilating Shade Enclave and destroying a big part of Myth Drannor
- The Shade empire is reduced to basically nothing. Elminster killed the Most High and the few remaining Shade princes are now all dead. So there are now just scattered remains of the Shadovar and all the big players from that faction are dead. The Shade Empire as a force to be reckoned with is basically gone.
- Most of the fighting force of Myth Drannor was decimated and the elves abandoned Myth Drannot to retreat to Semberholme (I think). THO has said that Ed Greenwood mentioned that elves aren't gone from Myth Drannor for good, but this novel apparently set them back so much on the reclamation effort that I think it's safe to assume that the city is just another dungeon now, like it used to be before the reclamation.
- Myth Dranor's mythal was drained and presumably no longer works. Same thing for Candlekeep's wards. Not that it matters much with Candlekeep since everyone and their mother could apparently find a way around them to enter the keep.
- A few more chosen of Mystra died: the Srinshee and Dove.
- Mystra is apparently back to full power by the end of the novel.

I think that covers the main events of the novel.

Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage".
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Lilianviaten
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  14:17:15  Show Profile Send Lilianviaten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tanthalas

***Spoilers for The Herald***








- Shade Enclave fell on top of Myth Drannor, presumably annihilating Shade Enclave and destroying a big part of Myth Drannor
- The Shade empire is reduced to basically nothing. Elminster killed the Most High and the few remaining Shade princes are now all dead. So there are now just scattered remains of the Shadovar and all the big players from that faction are dead. The Shade Empire as a force to be reckoned with is basically gone.
- Most of the fighting force of Myth Drannor was decimated and the elves abandoned Myth Drannot to retreat to Semberholme (I think). THO has said that Ed Greenwood mentioned that elves aren't gone from Myth Drannor for good, but this novel apparently set them back so much on the reclamation effort that I think it's safe to assume that the city is just another dungeon now, like it used to be before the reclamation.
- Myth Dranor's mythal was drained and presumably no longer works. Same thing for Candlekeep's wards. Not that it matters much with Candlekeep since everyone and their mother could apparently find a way around them to enter the keep.
- A few more chosen of Mystra died: the Srinshee and Dove.
- Mystra is apparently back to full power by the end of the novel.

I think that covers the main events of the novel.



Good summary. I would include Larloch's defeat. He is definitely still alive, but he was badly wounded, and it's possible that his control over the servitor liches is broken. That could be interesting for a campaign idea.

I would also think to include Manshoon, because he was a big part of the story, but I'm not sure how I would describe his final result. His plans were thwarted, sort of, but people disagree what his plans were. So I'd be interested in hearing your take on that.
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Eilserus
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  14:38:32  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Due to Myth Drannor's spread out layout, only the few central most blocks of the "city" were destroyed.

Per Ed in one of his latest Forging articles:

"So in the wake of that fall, a few blocks of central Myth Drannor are rubble under the shattered remnants of Thultanthar. Scavenging monsters are roaming the battlefield, which is a huge stretch of forest littered with elf and human mercenary corpses (for Myth Drannor was a city of living forest, not a paved-over area crammed with buildings, like most human cities)."

Article source link: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/after-fall
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Tanthalas
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  19:01:20  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten
Good summary. I would include Larloch's defeat. He is definitely still alive, but he was badly wounded, and it's possible that his control over the servitor liches is broken. That could be interesting for a campaign idea.

I would also think to include Manshoon, because he was a big part of the story, but I'm not sure how I would describe his final result. His plans were thwarted, sort of, but people disagree what his plans were. So I'd be interested in hearing your take on that.



I didn't include Larloch because I honestly forgot about him, but to me it didn't feel like there would be lasting consequences for him anyway.

Manshoon I didn't include on purpose. I don't know how you can say that he was a big part of the story when the Manshoon/Mirt sidestory was pretty much irrelevant and just there to show how people in Cormyr were dealing with the Sundering.

Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage".
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Mirtek
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  21:09:26  Show Profile Send Mirtek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten

I would include Larloch's defeat. He is definitely still alive,
Actually I say he's definitely not alive
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Lilianviaten
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  21:28:44  Show Profile Send Lilianviaten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tanthalas

quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten
Good summary. I would include Larloch's defeat. He is definitely still alive, but he was badly wounded, and it's possible that his control over the servitor liches is broken. That could be interesting for a campaign idea.

I would also think to include Manshoon, because he was a big part of the story, but I'm not sure how I would describe his final result. His plans were thwarted, sort of, but people disagree what his plans were. So I'd be interested in hearing your take on that.




I didn't include Larloch because I honestly forgot about him, but to me it didn't feel like there would be lasting consequences for him anyway.

Manshoon I didn't include on purpose. I don't know how you can say that he was a big part of the story when the Manshoon/Mirt sidestory was pretty much irrelevant and just there to show how people in Cormyr were dealing with the Sundering.



I don't know. With regard to Manshoon, I thought he was making a play for Cormyr that Ed had foreshadowed for a few novels. And of course, he was interested in destroying Elminster. (You have to respect a guy who keeps punching above his weight class.) I thought his "defeat" showed the power Cormyr could muster even in a time of strife, as quite a few powerful Cormyreans showed up to contain him. His story did seem to just fizzle out, though, after so much was made of the trouble he was causing in Cormyr and how close he came to killing Elminster.

I know Ed is supposed to be releasing a novel in spring 2015, so I'm curious to see what updates we'll receive on the archmages. I'm most interested in Larloch. The guy probably can't remember the last time he was magically upstaged or defeated, so I'm wondering what impact this has on him.
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Lilianviaten
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Posted - 15 Oct 2014 :  21:29:32  Show Profile Send Lilianviaten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mirtek

quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten

I would include Larloch's defeat. He is definitely still alive,
Actually I say he's definitely not alive



I'm ashamed to say that I actually had to think about that one for a minute.
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Plaguescarred
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Canada
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Posted - 20 Oct 2014 :  17:43:11  Show Profile Send Plaguescarred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the update!

Yan
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