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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  18:36:46  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Greetings!

So.. Which do you think is the one?
Personally I think you owe it all to the Necromancer/Ranger.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  21:51:34  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Once again, I shall have to say Rogue/Shadowdancer. Considering my character, I believe the explanation is obvious......

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  21:59:53  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Öf course, but you cant mean that that is the best class?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  22:07:11  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course I can. You should see my NWN character. I'll post stats as soon as I get a chance.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  22:12:57  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okey, hope it goes better with this one then it whent with your sorcerer.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  22:15:09  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ezindir, I would appretiate it if you refrained from mentioning that mishap ever again......

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  22:37:24  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed.

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Cherrn
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 :  23:39:11  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always liked monk/shadowdancer combo.

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Teflon
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  03:13:11  Show Profile  Visit Teflon's Homepage Send Teflon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like going with the Ranger/Arcane Archer. Its a pretty cool class.

In any battle, the mightiest weapon is one that strikes unseen.

A Warrior or Wizard may be invincible in open battle, with their foes before them, but even they must sleep sometime, and cannot parry the knife that comes from behind.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  03:48:16  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about Fencer?

Oh, wait, that hasn't been released yet. I suppose I ought to send what I've got to Sage soon, so he and I can complete that class.

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Arivia
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  05:17:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm really wide open on this. A few notes:
  • I generally prefer druids to clerics, and wizards over sorcerers.
  • I'm not one for barbarians in general(although they make for a nice change of pace), nor for the 3.0 ranger.
  • Favorite prestige classes: Incantatrix, verdant lord, planar champion, arcane archer, bladesinger, shadowdancer, candle caster, and guild thief.
  • Out of my own stuff: Ieciari sculptor, disciple of light, and Tor'elach(Stuff from my projects).
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Ezindir the dark
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Norway
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  11:52:30  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But now why? I think the Ranger/mage is best, this is becouse they get the powerful mage spells, the rangers fighting skills , ability to hide in the shadows, familiar and Animal companion, charm animal and som basic cleric spells.

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Arivia
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  15:29:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It works...okay. It's just grating to my mind, and I've never been able to find a good concept for it. I'm more of a fan of either the fighter/wizard or druid/wizard.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 :  16:10:31  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well Ranger/mage is not very different from fighter/mage, but I think ranger is a better solo character.

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EcThelion
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 :  05:54:48  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What could you possibly use the puny Ranger Spells for anyway? And the animal companion is pretty useless. And the Hide skill... well... that's what we've got invisibility for, now isn't it?

I'd rather have the hitpoints of a fighter, but why go there when you can have the hitpoints of a Dragon? Sorceror/Dragon Deciple all the way.

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The Cardinal
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 :  10:12:43  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, we ourselves are almost always a spell caster of somesort.

-Usually Arcane ( Sorc, Bard or Necro) over Divine (Druid)
- tend to shun all direct fighting types ( Barbarians, Fighter, Paladins, Rangers, and sometimes monks)
- Favorite Prestiege classes are: Blackguard, Shifter, Disciple of Asmodeus, Planeshifter, Acolyte of the Skin, Alienist, and Fang of Lolth (PRAISE LOLTH!)
-Third Party or other wise PrC include: The Demonologist (Encyclopedia Arcane: Demonology), The Possessed (EA: Demonology), The Necrophage (EA: Necromancy)

Notice a trend? Oh well, the rewards are usually worth the low HP in the Long run... if we ever make it to the long run with that char


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Ezindir the dark
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 :  10:24:33  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EcThelion

What could you possibly use the puny Ranger Spells for anyway? And the animal companion is pretty useless. And the Hide skill... well... that's what we've got invisibility for, now isn't it?

I'd rather have the hitpoints of a fighter, but why go there when you can have the hitpoints of a Dragon? Sorceror/Dragon Deciple all the way.

Healing, poison, so on... Anyways, the animal compainion, familiar combe is reallly usefull in NwN, and if you have hideskill you dont need invisibility and then you have room for more spells.

And as I said, ranger is a better solo character then fighter, I think they even gain more hP or equal mind you

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Sirine
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USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 :  14:36:15  Show Profile  Visit Sirine's Homepage Send Sirine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
::hops up and down, waving hands in air:: All for the rouge halfling thief! All for the rouge halfling thief! Raise your hands!! ::hophop::

Cheers, everyone!
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Kaervok
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 :  20:15:23  Show Profile  Visit Kaervok's Homepage Send Kaervok a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me being a longgggg time Arcane spellcasting class. I also beleive in study, not instant gratification. Therefore I am totally for the Mage (wizard) class. After taking it to the next step, Arch Mage and lich prestige classes are my favorite. The great lich powers and teh Arch-mage power over spells is unbelievable, therefore Thats why the Mage is my favorite. Plus they are cool adn where robes!!
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Signal-9
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Canada
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Posted - 27 Feb 2004 :  03:32:05  Show Profile  Visit Signal-9's Homepage Send Signal-9 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well this is a tough one, I couldnt say which one is the best class but i can name my favorite 3 normal and 3 wild class's:

1) Fighter ( you can never go wrong with at least a couple fighters in your party)

2) Wizard ( I prefer the wizard over the sorcerer because I can choose what spells I want for the next day)

3) Cleric ( Over all you need this class in your party, healing and combat is a deadly combination

Wild Mix:
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1) Rogue / Cleric ( this is can be a very good mix if it is done right)

2) Rogue / Wizard ( this is also a powerful mix)

3) Ranger / Druid ( just seems to flow )

Now, I wont get into prestige class's and the such since it will get way to crazy in here... but for some basic class types you really can do alot !

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Ius
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Posted - 27 Feb 2004 :  08:02:55  Show Profile  Visit Ius's Homepage Send Ius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you want a really poweful character try taking a human with the "bloodline of fire" -feat and, class him up with sorcerer/elemental savant(fire) mixed in with spell focus/greater spellfocus evocation. Keep his cha score high and at higher levels you take the contemplative prestige class to get some exellent save boost. Other feats that is good for this character are energy substitution and energy admixture.
This spellcaster will be very powerful around lvl12-16 with his fire spells having incredibly high DCs and having a lot of spells to cast.
I got this character from one of my players in the campaign "City of the Spiderqueen" the guy actually became a contemplative after an encounter with Kurgoth Hellspawn(who I ruled as a higher representative of the god Kossuth). Needless to say this character has some weaknesses as well, fire immune or resistant creatures are a though match, however the sorcerer class allows him to cast other spellssuch as disitegrate and other spells, as he is not dependent on memorization. Imagine the devastation of a energyadmixed fireball/lihtningball with a dc closer to 30!

Edited by - Ius on 28 Feb 2004 08:26:48
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Hymn
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Posted - 27 Feb 2004 :  21:01:51  Show Profile Send Hymn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey what ever happned to the good old rouge 4/fighter 4 minimum any way.

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EcThelion
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Norway
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Posted - 27 Feb 2004 :  23:36:59  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir the dark

quote:
Originally posted by EcThelion

What could you possibly use the puny Ranger Spells for anyway? And the animal companion is pretty useless. And the Hide skill... well... that's what we've got invisibility for, now isn't it?

I'd rather have the hitpoints of a fighter, but why go there when you can have the hitpoints of a Dragon? Sorceror/Dragon Deciple all the way.

Healing, poison, so on... Anyways, the animal compainion, familiar combe is reallly usefull in NwN, and if you have hideskill you dont need invisibility and then you have room for more spells.

And as I said, ranger is a better solo character then fighter, I think they even gain more hP or equal mind you


(that's alot of quoting)
The Ranger just isn't worth the levels. I'd rather go for a prestige Class any day.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 28 Feb 2004 :  01:57:16  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In NWN, I recently added the ranger class to my character. (Only 1 lvl, seeing as how they receive the dual wield feat, and I'm too lazy to get both Two Weapon Fighting and ambidexterity.)

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ius
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Sweden
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Posted - 28 Feb 2004 :  08:22:16  Show Profile  Visit Ius's Homepage Send Ius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, I did not understand that the topic was NWN characters. On this topic I have absolutely no idea as I have just resently begun playing the first expansion. In the original NWN I played a paladin, fun, until a guy showed me his halforc/barbarian/fighter/mage (shield is such a good spell, in 3ed, that it is worth taking a stray wizard level for a tank).
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 29 Feb 2004 :  20:38:24  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EcThelion

quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir the dark

quote:
Originally posted by EcThelion

What could you possibly use the puny Ranger Spells for anyway? And the animal companion is pretty useless. And the Hide skill... well... that's what we've got invisibility for, now isn't it?

I'd rather have the hitpoints of a fighter, but why go there when you can have the hitpoints of a Dragon? Sorceror/Dragon Deciple all the way.

Healing, poison, so on... Anyways, the animal compainion, familiar combe is reallly usefull in NwN, and if you have hideskill you dont need invisibility and then you have room for more spells.

And as I said, ranger is a better solo character then fighter, I think they even gain more hP or equal mind you


(that's alot of quoting)
The Ranger just isn't worth the levels. I'd rather go for a prestige Class any day.

Yes indeed, and there are more to come.
Perhaps, it depends on the class, but yes it is certainly worth the levels.

quote:
originally posted by Ius
Ah, I did not understand that the topic was NWN characters. On this topic I have absolutely no idea as I have just resently begun playing the first expansion. In the original NWN I played a paladin, fun, until a guy showed me his halforc/barbarian/fighter/mage (shield is such a good spell, in 3ed, that it is worth taking a stray wizard level for a tank).
It is not only for NwN, it is for everything, but it just so happend that we discussed NwN now.

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yeminer
Acolyte

Turkey
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  08:34:45  Show Profile  Visit yeminer's Homepage Send yeminer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
my best character is wizard/lich because they do not die so you have many time to study and have power
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Kaervok
Seeker

USA
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  01:09:53  Show Profile  Visit Kaervok's Homepage Send Kaervok a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yeminer

my best character is wizard/lich because they do not die so you have many time to study and have power



Me too. I totally agree, w00t!
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