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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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 Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 02:57:26
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My deity is (as most of you know  ) Vhaeraun, the Masked Lord, and Drow God of Thievery. I was wondering what deities the scribes of Candlekeep worship, and whether or not they have any special Holy Days. Alaundo, just a question, but do you worship Oghma, Lord of Knowledge and Binder of What is Known?
Anyways, for example, a Vhaeraunite Holy Day is the Masked Lord's Embrace. Midwinter Night, known to Vhaeraun's followers as the Masked Lord's Embrace, is the most sacred time of the year to followers of the Masked God of Night. This annual holy day is celebrated by the Masked Lord's followers with daylong introspective rituals of total sensory deprivation. Each worshiper is expected to cloak themselves in a region of magical darkness and sit or stand at the middle of the effect for a full 24 hours while contemplating Vhaeraun's teachings and dreaming up schemes to advance the Masked Lord's goals in the coming year. All followers of Vhaeraun who wish to perform this ritual are granted the ability to employ their darkness spell-like ability with the necessary extended duration.
-Faiths and Pantheons, Page 114.
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1. What deities do you scribes worship ?
2. What are your faith's holy days? (optional  )
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
Edited by - Shadowlord on 20 Feb 2004 04:56:45
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Kezghan
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 08:15:24
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Savras the All-Seeing, the All-Seeing One, Lord of Divination, He of the Third Eye, The Diviner.
The Vision, which occurs on the Feast of the Moon. The holy day is observed with 24 hours of continuous meditation. All devout followers partake and are rewarded with a vision at the end of the holiday.
I would hazard a guess that is who they worship, at least Alaundo of yore does. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 09:44:39
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Be fooled not by my demonic appearance - my deity is actually Mielikki!
Im not aware of any canon Holy day...... if anyone knows any different then let me know..... im see if i can wangle it as a holiday from work  |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 10:04:55
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Alaundo, just a question, but do you worship Oghma, Lord of Knowledge and Binder of What is Known?
Well met
Need you ask, Shadowlord? Oghma is indeed a favored deity here within Candlekeep. If I may refer you to the tome entitled Faiths and Pantheons... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 12:53:53
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My deity of devotion has, is, and always will be...Labelas Enoreth.
As one of the many chosen faithful to the Sage at Sunset, we do not have, nor do will celebrate any form of holy day in recognition of our deity. For us, we see the passing of all time in a stict and uniform motion. It is independent of the events that unfold with each coming interval.
The Marking of Time is the only ritual we perform, a daily exercise conducted at sunset. We utter prayers to the Sage, and tell all that we have learned in the past day so that it may be recorded by our lorekeepers from Arvandor.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 15:19:13
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Forgive this attempt at levity...
However, seeing this thread, I'm reminded of a very funny moment during R.A. Salvatore's Mortality radio interview show. In discussing Faerun's very large pantheon, Mr. Salvatore made some remark along the lines, paraphrasing here, that with so many deities if he were someone from Faerun he'd want to see pamphlets on each deity listing the benefits of worship to that particular God.
As one who has always thought the pantheon a bit crowded, I especially thought that comment humorous. I can just see the scene:
Commoner One: "Does Mystra offer full dental coverage?"
Commoner Two: "No, but I think Oghma does. Let me check his pamphlet." |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 16:11:43
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Sirius, the sad thing is that I can picture that happening....
"Are you kidding? Don't worship Beshaba, the Health Benefits are terrible!"
"Hmmm, if I worship Deneir, I can recieve a good pension......"
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 16:15:17
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Hehe. Good one. And, of course, I'm sure every deity has his or her own version of the pushy proselytizer, like a Jevovah's Witness, or a member of PETA. 
(Or certain other scribes.  ) |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 16:26:23
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(Oh so cruel, Bookwyrm....... Just keep mocking the Vhaeraunite, you'll see...... )
I've also discovered that on the surface, Nights of the Full Moon are also holy, for Vhaeraunites hunt stags and other such beasts, and offer them to Vhaeraun with dark rites that pervert the ways of ancient faerie elves.
(Bookwyrm, you failed to mention what deity YOU worshipped....) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 16:58:43
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Well, gee, fancy that. How about I say it's a non-FR deity and leave it at that?  |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 17:03:10
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| Nonsense! I'll listen..... (Whisper: Alaundo will never have to know......) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 17:18:22
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I most often try to take my chances with Lady Tymora, sadly with the luck I have been having so far it seems like I am favoured by the dark maiden Beshaba  |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 03:39:34
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| I let shadowlord speak for my holidays since we are both Vhaeraunites |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 03:51:08
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Indeed. We Vhaeraunites seem to be a growing force indeed. Here at Candlekeep alone, Vhaeraun is represented by myself, Arteris, Ezindir the Dark, Vesz'aun Auvryath, RaVeN1463, and hmmm, thats all... Still, we are the biggest religious group here.
Back on topic, my questions still stand.
1. What deities do you worship?
2. What are your deity's holy days, if any? (optional) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 00:48:33
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If it would get me days off from work, then EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 04:19:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord
Indeed. We Vhaeraunites seem to be a growing force indeed. Here at Candlekeep alone, Vhaeraun is represented by myself, Arteris, Ezindir the Dark, Vesz'aun Auvryath, RaVeN1463, and hmmm, thats all... Still, we are the biggest religious group here.
Of course Vhaeraun followers are a growing population. Big Bad Spider Queen has gone as silent as the WOTC's Novel board. Free of this influence, more and more dark elves are seeing the light.
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Back on topic, my questions still stand.
1. What deities do you worship?
2. What are your deity's holy days, if any? (optional)
You know, it wasn't a FR game, but I had a character once that when it came to worship collected every and I do mean every holy symbol he could get his hands on. The thought being when in a pinch, find the right one that would work. And yes, the idea was stolen from The Mummy movie. Fans of that film should know the scene I'm referring to where a certain character pulls out every holy symbol on him in a desperate attempt to save his skin. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 05:08:20
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| Yes, I do recall. And I also believe that if you do that in FR, you are deemed one of the False..... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 05:33:48
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| That would follow. And I doubt Kelemvor would be keen on that idea. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 05:44:04
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*Opens bag*
One of these must work...
*Pulls out a rabbit's foot, a pair of hacked up hood ornaments, and holy symbols of Mystra and Deneir*
NOOAA!!
*crunch*
My characters have venerated various deities, from Mask to Mystra to Talona.(Actually, I should post a link to the Talonite here...that was a well-thought out character, if never used...*snaps out of musing*)
Personally, well...it's a bit complicated, and certainly nothing from the FR. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 16:37:00
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Yes, I do recall. And I also believe that if you do that in FR, you are deemed one of the False.....
Well as FRCS shows nothing wrong with having a patron deity and making numerous offerings/prayers to other gods during a certain time based upon what a person is doing. Still, I don't see a Vhaeraun follower suddenly getting the urge to make a prayer to Eilistrae no matter the situation. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 17:51:29
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Yes, that is indeed true.....
No prayers to the Dark Maiden here. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 23:50:39
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Well, patrons are supposed to be representative of the person's life in general. For instance, my patron saint is St. Dominic, Patron Saint of Astronomers. (Therefore, my Confirmation name is Dominic.) There are a lot of patron saints, though. So when I hear on the news that an officer-related shooting took place during my brother's shift and in his patrol area, I'll say a short prayer asking St. Michael the Archangel, Patron Saint of Soldiers and Policemen, to make certain he's safe.
Keep in mind, though, that it isn't the same as in the Realms. After all, you don't worship saints; you're just asking them to intercede. I like to think of it as going to the right manager for a "department" of world affairs.
However, just as it's less similar at a second look, a third look shoes that it's still somewhat the same. After all, a worshiper of Helm might still offer a prayer to Tymora that he doesn't get killed on his job. It doesn't mean he worships her.
That doesn't lable one a False; it's switching the more personal veneration of a patron back and forth that does. Then you're not holding true to an ideal; you're out for personal gain. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2004 : 00:14:35
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| Yes, but what I meant was that you can't expect a Vhaeraunite to pray to Eilistraee for safety. You see? If you revered Lathander, you wouldn't pray to Talos for no storms. The rivalry between deities is too great. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
Edited by - Shadowlord on 23 Feb 2004 00:21:16 |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2004 : 19:33:39
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| Does anyone know if theres a particular day of importance in the Faerun calendar for Mielikki worshippers? |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2004 : 19:42:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Rad
Does anyone know if theres a particular day of importance in the Faerun calendar for Mielikki worshippers?
On page 114 of Faiths & Avatars, it states that "the best-known to outsiders of the holy rituals of Mielikki are the Four Feasts of the solstice and equinox nights." Additionally, "the festivals of Greengrass and Midsummer Night are even greater rituals."
I hope that helps. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2004 : 19:54:00
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I have just referenced Faiths and Pantheons, and I believe I have found what you seek, Rad.
Quote:(Faiths and Pantheons, page 48)
"Clerics, druids, and spellcasting rangers of Mielikki pray for spells in the morning or evening, but are required to observe both. They listen to and understand the whispers of the woods after a period of meditation and extended introspection. Once a month, each cleric or druid is required to perform the Song of Trees, a ritual that calls forth a dryad or treant, and then serve the creature by performing small tasks for a day. The church's most holy rituals, called the Four Feasts, take place on the equinoxes and solstices. They celebrate the sensual side of existence and involve singing praises to the Lady in the forest depths wherever possible. Celebrations on Greengrass and Midsummer Night are similar to the Four Feasts, but they also include the planting rites, and the Wild Ride, where herds of unicorns gather and allow the faithful to ride them bareback through the forest. On years when Shieldmeet follows Midsummer, the Ride continues for that day and night if desired."
Hope that answers your question, Rad. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2004 : 21:48:13
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| Thanks fella's, thats great Just what I was after. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2004 : 21:57:43
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| No problem, Rad. We senior scribes have to help each other out... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 04:10:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Rad
Thanks fella's, thats great Just what I was after.
Glad to hear that. Care to share any details on what you will be using the information for? Alas, I always love a good FR tale. |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 04:31:03
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| One faithful worshipper and patron of Ilmater here! The church has no official holy days, but the priesthood must pray/meditate 6 times per day. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 15:04:29
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Originally posted by Brother Ezra
One faithful worshipper and patron of Ilmater here! The church has no official holy days, but the priesthood must pray/meditate 6 times per day.
While this is true of the religion as a whole, I've a suggestion that I would have folded into Realmslore if there had been room in LOI / ESS.
Each monastery or abbey or library (or whatever you call your local bastion of Ilmatran priests) has local holidays/celebrations to venerate their patron saint of Ilmater. Thus, the semi-isolated Cloister of St. Yutharl in the southern Qadim Hills (the foothills around and beneath the Troll Mountains) celebrates Yutharl's birth (Eleasias 3, 1141 DR), his death/the date of his martyrdom (Ches 22, 1189 DR), and the date when Ilmater declared among his clergy that Yutharl was indeed a saint in his eyes (Greengrass, 1191 DR).
The cloister is simply a walled cluster of buildings on a high hill cliff above the confluence of the Fireflow and the Trollstooth Run. The group's flower and seal is the cliffstear, a rare cousin of the violet with brilliant blue flowers that appear to drip off the clinging vines, and they grow all around these hills and cliffs. The monks here are historians and librarians of lore by rangers and wanderers. Thus, they are a good source of wilderness information (including information on fighting trolls, using local plants and animals for healing, etc.) on the Giants' Plain, the Shining Plains, and the Greenfields to the north.
Yutharl was an adventurer and wanderer in the model of Dalagar Long-Walker and Bowgentle--wandering simply to experience the world and nature and see what he could see and help those in need he met along the way. While never a religious man during his lifetime, he defended a small wagon of Ilmater's faithful for nine days and nights from a determined clutch of trolls. The final battle took place on the cliff where the cloister now stands, as Yutharl managed to hack seven trolls to pieces and scatter their limbs into the raging river. He died of his wounds on that very spot, and the Ilmatrans (originally traveling to one of their monasteries in Calimshan) founded a new walled settlement around Yutharl's grave. Over time, they also built secret stairwells inside the cliffs and established a small ferry by which they can provide travelers with passage over the raging rapids here for small tithes.
Wow....no idea where all that came from, but maybe it means I'll have a productive day on other writings....
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