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Lord Rad
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 Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 08:37:03
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A couple of new and interesting series just popped up over at WotC!
Magic Books of Faerun (A Harper's Companion, Volume III - A Collection of Bard Songs, with a Touch of Magic for Ease in Use)
Realmslore: Alustriel's Latest Consort (I: The High Lady's Mystery)
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Lord Rad
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 09:23:44
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Confound it...
Rad, I was just going to do that...
Anyway I haven't had much time to look them both over yet, but from what I've skimmed so far, they both look very interesting...
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 09:29:19
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Originally posted by The Sage
Confound it...
Rad, I was just going to do that...
Anyway I haven't had much time to look them both over yet, but from what I've skimmed so far, they both look very interesting...
Ive just gone through both articles, I particulary liked the Harpers Companion article - would have been nice to start on Volume I though
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The Sage
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 10:17:56
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Originally posted by The Sage
Well as I said I haven't read through it yet, but do you know why there's no Volume I presented...?
No idea!
It does mention that copies of both previous volumes are in the confines of none other than Candlekeep, as well as other libraries and private owners. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 17:07:26
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I have a player who loves to roleplay bards. Thus, she was excited when I emailed the Harper's Companion page to her. Alustriel's consort is very intriguing. "A shade too dusky to be a native of Tethyr?" Hmmm......
The National Enquirer would have already gotten his identity if this was happening in our world.  |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Feb 2004 : 17:36:29
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Bah! Journalists are too damn nosey! Plus, half the stuff in those aren't even true. Just the other day, I walked by a news-stand that had a magazine "Baby Born With Antlers" on the front cover! Yeah, right....... Oh, sorry I'm getting off topic, nevermind. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 05:44:57
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Bah! Journalists are too damn nosey! Plus, half the stuff in those aren't even true. Just the other day, I walked by a news-stand that had a magazine "Baby Born With Antlers" on the front cover!
Really, I thought I saw a cover story that said something like:
Latest tome reveals: Overrated dark elven male god bested by his own son!
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 06:45:25
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| His son? Vhaeraun's son is Selvetarm, and that will never happen! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 12:57:01
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The "Magic Books of Faerūn" series is going to be based primarily on the idea that the books presented are rare (if not unique copies), interesting, and missing/stolen/'at large.' Volumes I and II of A Harper's Companion won't be presented because, simply put, they wouldn't especially be any of the above. There's also the minor item of avoiding providing statistics for a 'last known owner' that's actually a monk of Candlekeep.
Of course, the fact that they're both available for viewing in Candlekeep means that DMs are, as always, free to generate their own volumes, particularly if their party will be using Volume III as an entry fee... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 15:46:22
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His son? Vhaeraun's son is Selvetarm, and that will never happen!
Well, from what I read in the last WOTSQ novel, Selvetarm was still before Grandma's face, albeit wounded, while dad was no where to be found. <Sigh> Sad when the young ends up taking the old to the wood shed.
And to keep this on topic, after sending the Alustriel's consort page to a fellow Realms fanatic, she commented to me last night about his skin color, "Someone from Dambrath?" Now that would be veddy interesting. Although, I just can't see it happening, but hey, let my fellow fanatic dare to dream. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 16:23:10
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Well, not to break this topic off track and onto the "My god is better than yours" kind of topic (that has so often happened before), I would just like to say that Vhaeraun could have left and is even now conserving his energy........
Back on Topic: The first thing that sprung into my mind with the "dusky skin" was that either he had some southern blood, or he was a shade. I don't know why, but that's what I thought of. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 05:07:17
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The mystery surrounding Alustriel's consort is deliberate, at least when you consider much of the language Mr Greenwood uses to describe him in thr article.
From what we can ascertain from the article, there's definitely nothing normal about his appearance, history or bearing within the societal structure of Silverymoon. The fact that much of his 'his early history seems almost absent from all record' may also suggest that his history is too 'sensitive' for public consideration, or maybe he has ties to an organisation/powergroup that wishes his exposure to be minimal at best.
Further speculation is irrelevant anyway, since the next article will most likely detail more about him...
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 05:49:56
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| Indeed.... It ruins the aura of mystery, don't you agree, Sage? |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 06:48:13
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I suppose, although given the current state of affairs that are occuring within the nation of the Silver Marches in my campaign, more information on Alustriel's consort would be nice, and would also work well with the current and future storyline.
Although, your suggestion about him possibly being a 'Shade' is intriguing, and does tie-in well with the increased 'Shade' presence throughout the North that is apparent now in my campaign.
Hmm...maybe he's been sent to undermine the Marches government from within, trying to subvert Alustriel......no, I don't like that idea, nor is it very likely .
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 15:03:14
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Originally posted by The Sage
Hmm...maybe he's been sent to undermine the Marches government from within, trying to subvert Alustriel......no, I don't like that idea, nor is it very likely .
Ditto on the unlikely belief of such an event happening. I can see the Shade trying to cause some trouble within the Silver Marches' government. But, to aim so high and so out in the open...granted it's been awhile since I read the trilogy, but is that their style? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 15:23:26
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Granted, it's not canon for the Shade enclaves to act so openly nor is it their style to be so direct with their motivations, at least given the current political and social environment of the Realms post-RotAW, but then this is my campaign. The fact that the Enclaves are now being open about their intentions is only a small part of a much larger plot than I am only now starting to slowly expose my players to...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 19:22:18
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| Well, I rather like that "bardic spellbook." (Technically, I suppose that would be "songbook," but that sound too ordinary.) Making up volumes for the other bardic spell levels (0, 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6) shouldn't be too hard. (Note that this is my assumption for why it's volume III, since it's all second-magnitude spells.) |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 22:11:08
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Originally posted by The Sage
Granted, it's not canon for the Shade enclaves to act so openly nor is it their style to be so direct with their motivations, at least given the current political and social environment of the Realms post-RotAW, but then this is my campaign. The fact that the Enclaves are now being open about their intentions is only a small part of a much larger plot than I am only now starting to slowly expose my players to...
Sage, perhaps you'd like to shed some light on this campaign of yours? It sounds very interesting.... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 12:07:44
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Actually, I'm about to wrap up this portion of the adventure series in a fortnight, so I'll fill you in on the particulars then.
I'd like to discuss it via ethereal mail though, so if you have an specific questions just let me know...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 12:09:33
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Well, I rather like that "bardic spellbook." (Technically, I suppose that would be "songbook," but that sound too ordinary.) Making up volumes for the other bardic spell levels (0, 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6) shouldn't be too hard. (Note that this is my assumption for why it's volume III, since it's all second-magnitude spells.)
Hmmm...that raises an interesting point. What do Bards call their 'spellbook'...?
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 23 Feb 2004 : 01:17:21
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Well, bards don't normally have spellbooks, not unless you're using 2e. It's all spontaneous magic, remember?
Other than that, I'm sure they'd call them songbooks. Sure, it's too ordinary for OOC references, but what else can you call them while in character? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Feb 2004 : 01:36:04
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"Tome of Ballads" perhaps? Just a thought..... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 02:49:51
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Well, bards don't normally have spellbooks, not unless you're using 2e. It's all spontaneous magic, remember?
Other than that, I'm sure they'd call them songbooks. Sure, it's too ordinary for OOC references, but what else can you call them while in character?
Oh, I know that. What I meant to say was - Where do Bards copy their ballads, songs, poems and the like...A Chapbook perhaps...?
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 08:30:19
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| I'd say so. Wasn't there a famous travelling minstrel of the Realms - Montiper or something?. Her articles used to be posted on the Forgotten Realms site. |
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 08:50:36
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I'd say so. Wasn't there a famous travelling minstrel of the Realms - Montiper or something?. Her articles used to be posted on the Forgotten Realms site.
Quite right, Lady Kazandra. Being Mintiper Moonsilver IIRC from the Mintipers "Chapbook" articles.
I believe Mintiper and his female companion (whos name I cant quite remember) were featured in an old issue of Dragon Magazine. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 09:26:36
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Does anyone here know of the specific issue number of the Dragon Magazine which features Mintiper, and this female companion?.
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 11:40:55
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Originally posted by The Sage
Oh, I know that. What I meant to say was - Where do Bards copy their ballads, songs, poems and the like...A Chapbook perhaps...?
Perhaps a "catalog," for those higher level chaps with quite a few songs to share?
Re: Mintiper Moonsilver, he and his female companion- one Asilther Graelor- appear in Dragon #187, in the article "The Lonely Harpist and the Lady Rogue." In 2nd Edition AD&D terms, Mintiper was a 12th-level half-elven bard, and Asilther, a 6th-level thief (also half-elven). |
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The Sage
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SiriusBlack
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