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Gary Dallison
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Zireael
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Ayrik
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Kris the Grey
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 02:48:32
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Dazzlerdal,
I did, along with a chum, produce a distinctly fan fiction non-canon tale that I recently began posting around these parts. If you were looking for Realms related fiction a serialization might be fun?
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Gary Dallison
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 10:35:43
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| I think this is an awesome idea! I can't wait to see it! |
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Gary Dallison
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 13:28:44
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| I've proofread part of it already and I can say so far it's a good read. I'm the Learokond piece now. |
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ksu_bond
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Posted - 27 Apr 2014 : 04:59:14
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Aytros
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Posted - 15 May 2014 : 19:36:21
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| This sounds awesome and I would love to contribute. As for publishing...Have you tried making a Kickstarter project? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 May 2014 : 20:35:39
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This sounds awesome and I would love to contribute. As for publishing...Have you tried making a Kickstarter project?
If it was me, I'd be hesitant about collecting money via kickstarter since that could lead to serious legal trouble. Releasing a fan item that doesn't make money is different than releasing a fan item that makes money on property that Wizard's owns. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 18 May 2014 : 21:10:31
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Originally posted by Aytros
This sounds awesome and I would love to contribute. As for publishing...Have you tried making a Kickstarter project?
If it was me, I'd be hesitant about collecting money via kickstarter since that could lead to serious legal trouble. Releasing a fan item that doesn't make money is different than releasing a fan item that makes money on property that Wizard's owns.
Indeed... WotC shut down someone, a few years back, because he asked for money for storing people's character sheets. He wasn't trying to make a profit, and they'd had no problem with his character sheet site before he asked for money -- but once he asked for money, the lawyers came out. |
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Gary Dallison
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
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Posted - 29 May 2014 : 18:21:39
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| Hmm, very interesting to see that you'll be doing the Old Empires from issue, as it seems you have a lot of interesting stuff there. Also, it is interesting that you connected orcs to the Fey, as it's something that I've also done, and was largely inspired to do this by Marcustay's work. Although I connected their pantheon to Elder Fomorians, rather than Primordials. |
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 29 May 2014 : 19:25:49
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Well I have to admit the idea did come from Markustay. When an idea is good why ignore it.
It is loosely backed up by the lore. The fey brought the elves to combat the dragons. We know the orcs came earlier to Faerun so who is to say the fey did not also bring the orcs to Faerun to combat the dragons but the orcs were unsuccessful.
I don't delve into anything before it arrived on Toril, nor do I bother with it once it leaves Toril. However I linked the orcs to the primordials because almost all cultures have a mythology where a god creates a race in his own image. Gruumsh is depicted as an orc in the same way as Corellon is depicted as an elf so it makes sense to me to have those beings create the orcs and elves to look like themselves (Annam did a similar thing with giants and it looks like Astoroth did the same thing with dragons).
Of course I also linked the orcs to Abeir and indeed plonked the primordial orcs there so they could arrive and fight with the mulan gods. I noted that there is no mention of an orc god prior to Uruth Ukrypt in the established lore so it didn't seem to much of a stretch of canon to imagine the orc gods were not around until the orcgate wars, its not as if the orc gods really do much for the orcs anyway (in fact the first mention of orcs in GHoTR has them in service to an outer planar fiend).
Anyways, I hope you enjoy the read, you are the first person I know for certain who has read the mag so thanks, and any feedback is always welcome.
Spread across Issues 1, 2, and 3 to do with Damara and Vaasa is a bit of a puzzle/secret so whoever figures it out first will get a mention in the next issue.
And hopefully the old empires stuff will be interesting (and hopefully make more sense than existing lore). As always its going to be a little bit different but familiar enough that you could use all existing lore with it.
I decided to start on the old empires because while working on Tiamat and Bahamut for Damara I also ended up correcting a bit of Old Empires lore and it inspired me to work on the past, current, and future of Mulhorand and Unther (and my made up third empire). |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 May 2014 : 20:11:31
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 31 May 2014 : 15:54:31
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 31 May 2014 : 16:28:57
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In your research of the bloodstone lands, I'd recommend an in-depth story on "The changing of the Lords of Imphras II: How Rilaunyr became a woman".
I realized I should become more clear. The below should make it more clear. Partly, I wonder if in addition to a sex change, did Rilaunyr undergo a worship change as well to Sune (i.e. its unstated whom he worshipped prior to Sune... Was it Helm? Tyr? Torm? Ilmater? The Red Knight? Siamorphe? Mystra? Hoar? a rare (rule-breaking)paladin of Valkur (known locally as Poseidon) whose religious leanings were tested?).:
From FR9 - Bloodstone Lands - section on Rilaunyr's Warship
In the heyday of the Impilturian port city, the ship protected merchant vessels putting into or out of Sarshel. Then the shipments of bloodstone bars stopped flowing down from Damara, and Sarshel#146;s importance waned. The Lord Rilaunyr could see how the winds were blowing, and brought his pride into dry-dock for refurbishing.
Rilaunyr longs to get back to sea. He hopes that the flow of bloodstone will soon resume, and restore his city to its former prominence. When trade is restored, Impiltur#146;'s crossed wand and sword banner will once again fly proudly above the deck of this formidable vessel, to the dismay of pirates hungry for merchant prey.
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The real power of Rilaunyr'#146;s Warship lies in magic. When fully manned, she carries six magic-users, levels 7-13, and a complement of twelve clerics of Poseidon, one of whom is a 15th level high priest.
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The clerics provide supplies and heal the crew when they are ill or wounded. Daily, they commune with their deity to keep Lord Rilaunyr informed of the fickle attitude of the god of waters, and of his domain.
From the Dragon #346 Article on Impiltur
The two female Lords, Rilaunyr (LG female Damaran human paladin 13 of Sune) and Idriane (LG female Damaran human paladin 7 of Ilmater/Triadic knight 4) usually act in concert and consider themselves something of a moderating influence on the extremes of some of the other members of council. They urge consensus and cooperation in all matters pertaining to the safety and welfare of Impiltur. |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 01 Jun 2014 : 06:03:32
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Hmm, if I didn't know better, I'd say I'm being put forth as a changer of FR canon. I was just following the herd. See "Unapproachable East", p.191.
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Gary Dallison
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 06 Jun 2014 : 12:06:13
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Just thought i would post a little teaser of my alternate version of Tiamat that will appear in issue III. The following details are of one of the sacred relics of Tiamat (although which Tiamat is the important question in my alternate version of things).
The Rings of Tiamat: Each of these three rings was forged from a scale of the Dark Ladys dragon form long ago, these rings were most recently given to the dragons Tchazzar, Gestaniius, and Skuthosin as part of some pact between each dragon and Tiamat; the Dark Lady, long before the Time of Troubles began,
When originally created these rings enhanced the abilities of the wearer making them stronger, faster, and more intelligent with greater spell like and spellcasting abilities than they would otherwise have access to. At the same time the wearer of the ring acted as a vessel for a portion of the Dark Ladys divinity so that should she ever be slain then the vessels would be compelled to seek out and slay one another until only one remained who would then be reborn as the Dark Lady. Once put on the ring could never be removed except in death.
Using these relics the Dark Lady escaped death at least twice. Once during a battle with Marduk during the Orcgate Wars and again during the first battle with Gilgeam during the Time of Troubles. Her essence split between each vessel and she was reborn from the body of the victor as he consumed the other two vessels.
The unpredictability of magic during the Time of Troubles twisted the function of the ring worn by Tchazzar and this ring now holds the essence of Tchazzar instead of Tiamat. This means there are only 2 Rings of Tiamat remaining.
With the Dark Ladys death, Tiamat the Dragon Queen claimed these remaining relics for herself and altered their powers to suit her. Now these rings, as well as enhancing abilities, slowly twist the wearer making them more evil and draconic in nature and form the longer they are worn. If the wearer is already a dragon then it merely twists them to evil and increased veneration of her, if the wearer is humanoid then they slowly transform into a half dragon. The rings can only be removed with a greater remove curse spell.
Unfortunately when she sent a servant to reclaim the ring worn by Tchazzar, the servant foolishly put it on and was twisted into Tchazzar himself. As such the ring has eluded her, although Tiamat does not know how or why.
Tiamat sends these rings into the lairs of dragons hoping that unsuspecting humans (or the dragon that dwells in the lair) don the rings and become devoted to her worship.
The rings still contain the divine spark they once did although it no longer has any function, but could be used to effect a return of the Dark Lady if someone had the power and the will to do so.
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Just thought i would post a bit of detail from my alternative writeup of Bahamut. One of the things i did was to tie the King of Justice title to the church of Bahamut as it made little sense to me for all matallic dragons to suddenly start cooperating and obeying the edicts of a supposed king. If such a king had existed before why had they not united in the past to destroy other threats. It seemed more likely to me that this king of justice was a religious title only that bore no authority over other dragons unless they were members of the church of bahamut.
Anyway thats just my take on it.
The Church of Bahamut
The church of Bahamut is a loose organisation that is spread out across Faerūn. The church maintains no temples (except the Palace of the North Wind), and very little in the way of hierarchy or structure.
The High Priest of the church of Bahamut is known by his title The King of Justice who lives in The North Wind and takes orders only from Bahamut but is largely autonomous (Bahamut only intervenes in times of great peril so is used primarily as a source of knowledge and wisdom).
The King of Justice gives his orders to his vassal lords (usually metallic dragons of great age and ability) that oversee large areas within the boundaries of Faerūn and who organise their own groups of lower ranking priests and agents to carry out the orders given to them. These areas usually coincide with the territory claimed by the dragon lord (although this is not true for humans that rise to this level within the church).
When not following orders the priests of Bahamut roam the lands of Faerūn (within the broad sphere of influence of their superior, which could include the entire Western Heartlands for instance) aiding the weak, recruiting new followers to Bahamuts glory, and keeping an eye out for Tiamat and her agents.
Communication between priests and the church lords varies according to the individuals, but these lords are usually ancient dragons with incredible spellcasting ability and the powers of flight and shape-shifting as well, so incognito communication is unlikely to be a significant barrier.
The church of Bahamut is not particularly large (numbering only a few hundred members in all of Faerūn. It is split equally between dragons and humanoids (although dragons includes half dragons and dragonborn), but the dragons in Bahamuts church hold the majority of powerful positions (only 1 lord is known to be a humanoid).
During the Rage of Dragons many metallic dragons sought aid from the Church of Bahamut to protect them from the unusual, untimely and seemingly unending dracorage. Those that did seek aid were given protection while they entered a magically induced slumber. Those that did not seek aid from the church had to find their own means to cope with the dracorage.
Given the ancient war between Tiamat and Bahamut that was a major contribution to the dwindling number of dragons in Faerūn, it is surprising that so many metallic dragons turned to Bahamuts church for aid. In gratitude for the promise the church kept to these dragons, many of them have begun worshipping the Platinum Dragon once more.
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