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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 00:00:02
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| Any speculation as to the true nature of the Moondark descendants? Forestlord elves? Does ''wild talent'' imply some psionic nature? Do skyships equate to spelljammer? |
Misanthorpe
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 00:18:50
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Originally posted by Fellfire
Does ''wild talent'' imply some psionic nature?
Wild magical talents. As per Volo's Guide to all Things Magical. In 3e, perhaps should be modeled via Sorcerer - or better, there were some bloodline related feats with spells tied in.
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Do skyships equate to spelljammer?
Those that leave the planet implicitly have to be. Mainly because there's almost nowhere to go without spelljamming speed (and Selune is not a good idea).
The "living ship" part fits into Elven SJ technology, i.e. altered Starfly plants. If it can be twisted into Gadabout, any EIN ship or Starwing (water-landing Man-o-War variant from Evermeet), there's no reason why not other variations. As long as they got seeds and right spells.
And yes, it follows that since a ship still is a living plant, a spirit may inhabit it just like any other massive plant, and Hamatree spell can bind the caster's lifeforce to it (Dryad style) - who then may stick around as a non-corporeal guardian undead, why not? |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 00:37:38
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| Thanks for the info TBeholder. After a quick search for Starfly, I found the Gadabout. Where can I find more info on Flitters, Men o War, Starwings, Armadas and Mother's? I may try to work something up using Dretchroyaster and Wooly's Elfbane golems. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 00:51:44
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SJ fan site (see "Ships And Their Source Products" and "To-Scale Deckplans"). And the associated forum (search function is your friend and all that).
The Starwing (Ruathimaer) is Man-o-War variant from FOR5 "Elves of Evermeet".
Dragon-blooded elves are a big wildcard anywhere, of course, especially as their nature is not immediately obvious. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 01:05:58
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| Thanks again. This will need considerably more research. Looks like fun. Still not clear on the Flitter. Something bigger than the Gadabout? A way to give the Elfbane golems wings? Hopefully Wooly chimes in here. I'm still open to speculation on the Moondark clan. What relation, if any, did the exiles have with dragons or did they simply flee to Wildspace to escape the perversion of their kin? |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Edited by - Fellfire on 26 Feb 2014 01:08:02 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 04:36:36
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The flitter is a small, one-man ship. It's like a one-person shuttlecraft.
The gadabout isn't really a ship; it's a plant that wraps around the wearer and give them some air. If the flitter is a shuttlecraft, the gadabout is a spacesuit with a maneuvering system. |
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Kusghuul
Acolyte
Norway
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Posted - 27 Feb 2014 : 00:59:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Most fey'ri are those imprisoned with House Dlardrageth and freed with the destruction of Hellgate Keep. That said, there is nothing to keep there from having been fey'ri that were separate from that House and stayed free and hidden for millennia.
The 3E Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, Races of Faerūn, and the Last Mythal trilogy are where you'll find the most info about the fey'ri.
There were only three fey'ri trapped under Hellgate Keep, namely Sarya, Ryvvik (deceased) and Xhalh according to the Hellgate Keep adventure. These were part of the original 7 escapees from their castle, which the grey elves placed under a mythal. When the Arcorari mages later lowered the mythal to check who was left, they accounted for everyone bar these 7. They then divined their whereabouts and curbstomped the remaining fey'ri, trapping the surviving three in their caves below what would become Hellgate Keep, where they remained until the Harpers blew up the venerable keep with Gatekeeper's Crystal.
However, there appears to have been some retconning. The previously mentioned [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20040519a]Threlya Dlardrageth[/url], seen as only three Dlardrageths are still alive. Additionally, LoD mentions Xhalh's daughter, an Ealoethi.
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Originally posted by TBeholder
The point is, most are specifically Moon Elf and specifically Foocubus. Hence specific abilities.
The vaguely-generic thing comes up with quite sensible "the most common source of such a bloodline is a succubus" and then proceeds into meaninglessly generic area. And as the foocubi go, how to put this... ah! "Intimidate" is not the first skill that comes to mind. Let alone Power Attack and Smite Good. At least, in the usual sense. 
Wrong on both accounts. Sun elves; Sarya is half balor, Xhalh half marilith, while Ryvvik is half vrock.
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Originally posted by Fellfire
Dlardragreth/fey'ri and Eldreth Veluuthra cooperation? Being elitist racists, I doubt it, but enemies make for good bedfellows. Thoughts? What about them dragon-blooded elves? Enemies to both or neither?
As mentioned previously, Eldreth Veluuthra would never knowingly cooperate with fey'ri. Emphasis here on knowingly. Fey'ri have alter self as a spell-like ability.
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Originally posted by sfdragon
ummmmm... they dont worship the seldarine..... various demon lords I would imagine, though I always considered sarya as being atheist
Actually, she has an interest in Ghaunadar. Faersynd Floshin, a cleric of Ghaunadar, has made most fey'ri at least superficially venerate That Which Lurks. As previously mentioned, they also seem to venerate |
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LordXenophon
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2014 : 17:22:11
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| I would never allow the Fey'ri in an ordinary Forgotten Realms campaign. The only times I might consider allowing them would be in a Planescape campaign or a campaign in which everyone plays a monster. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2014 : 18:55:48
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Originally posted by LordXenophon
I would never allow the Fey'ri in an ordinary Forgotten Realms campaign. The only times I might consider allowing them would be in a Planescape campaign or a campaign in which everyone plays a monster.
Even though they originated in the Realms, back in 2E?
And keep in mind, fey'ri don't have to appear monstrous -- they can alter their appearance. |
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kysus
Learned Scribe
USA
110 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2014 : 20:32:44
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LordXenophon@
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I would never allow the Fey'ri in an ordinary Forgotten Realms campaign. The only times I might consider allowing them would be in a Planescape campaign or a campaign in which everyone plays a monster.
I can understand this if its dealing towards any race with level adjustments as sometimes I find through my games it can cause problems and or even bad drama with a mixed party of characters with level adjustments and others without. Other than that I see no reason not to allow Fey'ri in a Forgotten Realms game seeing as how the race was created for forgotten Realms. Also in my opinion I think of all the races with level adjustments ive seen played its probally among the least overpowered that I've had to deal with when having mixed parties. |
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LordXenophon
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 01 Mar 2014 : 18:34:54
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Power level is not the issue. Player characters aren't even supposed to know the Fey'ri exist until after they have been to what's left of Hellgate Keep or had dealings with the Eldreth Veluthra. They are about as hidden as a race can be. I'm not too thrilled about the idea of one stepping out into public view, where it might be noticed by other Elves.
If somebody really wants to roleplay that sort of character, I'd rather they did it as a Drow. |
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