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Marco Volo
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  09:26:15  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all,

1/ I recall an old Dragon article (#228) "Greater familiars of Faerun" introducing new creatures to join a wizard. There were :
Racoon, badger, winged serpent, rat, spider, iguana, talking owl, falcon, vulture, bat, monkey, snake, stag, otter, fox, wolf, horse, cooshee (elven dog), brown bear and cheelah (sand cat). I"d add the tressym.
Question : can you advise me a way to fix the price for these beasts ?

My PC are in Skullport, they have found a "pet shop" and I can't say them "ohhh everything is sold out". I need prices or a way to fix them. Hit dice x 10(0) gp ? I honestly don't know.

2/ Same problem : they want to buy eggs for strange creatures. The seller have :
owl bear, elven cat, blink dog, umberhulk, unicorn, pseudodragon, displacer beast, peryton, pegasus, dragonne, hippogriff, griffon.

The Arcanamach
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  09:57:51  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Per 3.5 Monster Manual:

Griffon eggs: 3,500gp each, Younglings: 7,000gp each
Hippogriff eggs: 2,000gp each, Younglings: 3,000gp each
Owlbears: 3,000gp each
Pegasus eggs: 2,000gp each, Younglings: 3,000gp each
Pseudogragon eggs: 10,000gp!, Younglings: 20,000gp! (yes these amounts are correct)

No information is given on the other species, although a unicorn's horn (called an alicorn in the Realms) can sell for 2,000gp.

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  10:40:38  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cooshee pups are worth 150gp on the open market while fully trained cooshees are 300gp [Races of the Wild, p190]. Horse prices are listed in the Player's Handbook as being at least 75gp.

According to my second ed stuff, Sand Cat kittens are worth between 500-2,000gp.

Going by Pathfinder rules:

bat - 5gp
badger - 15gp
raccoon - 5gp
rat - 1cp
spider - 25gp
pseudodragon - 200gp
monkey - 3gp
vulture - 30gp
eagle/falcon - 40gp
fox - 8gp
wolf - 100gp
grizzly bear - 740gp
snake - 5gp
otter - 20gp
owl (not a talking one) - 10gp

I'd say that you wouldn't buy a tressym, you'd have to make friends with one.

Hope these prices are to your satisfaction.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  23:13:47  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I‘m surprised that pseudodragons are given standardized prices. They might be little, but they‘re still dragons. They‘re also far more potent familiars than the usual random little forest animals; they‘re intelligent, they‘re magical, they can cast spells, they can grant powerful advantages to those they bond with. Most familiars are barely-smart animals with some better-than-human sensory ability, they‘re constantly distracted by their beastial instincts, they also tend to be almost useless in combat.

Can one also purchase imps, quasits, faeriedragons, and other such familiars openly? In all the campaigns I‘ve ever played, familiars of this magnitude had to be obtained by performing your rituals in exotic locations, often other planes, with far more being offered than the usual little cauldron full of burning herbs.

I‘ve seen a PC pleased with his raven familiar, several who were dismayed and inconvenienced by their toads, one who was indifferent about his rat, and one (a wild mage) who was feared because of his accidentally summoned (and usually stoneskinned) rust monster.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 16 Jan 2014 23:23:30
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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  04:03:39  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a more extensive list of prices in Pathfinder.

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Cards77
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  16:42:47  Show Profile Send Cards77 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about the market price of a Red Dragon Egg? One of my PC's found one.

Also, my druid PC would eventually like to train and raise a Roc. I will probably make her solo quest for an egg but wondering what the price of a Roc egg would be?
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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  19:04:08  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Draconomicon (3.5) has rules for rearing a dragon on page 13, it might have pricing somewhere as well.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  19:27:10  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For anything of this sort, one should also consider WHERE its being sold. If its being sold from somewhere that the animal isn't normally found the price should be about 5 to 10 times normal, even more if the animal is particularly dangerous to transport OR would require a lot of "effort" of some sort to transport. Thus, things like eggs that would need to be kept warm and at certain temperatures, not allowed to crack, etc.... should be more expensive (and DM's should judge exactly how much care PC's attempting to bring such to market take... for instance, is there any heat source in a portable hole... if you teleport while holding something fragile, the sudden shifting of ground beneath your feet could cause problems, etc... If you try to transport a youngling dragon, what hell might its breath weapon wreak, etc...).

So, a griffin sold in a mountain settlement is probably cheaper than one found on an island. Owlbear young will be cheaper in forests. A deep dragon youngling is probably cheaper in the underdark. A blue dragon youngling is probably cheaper in the desert.

Ironically, this article made me just realize one thing... I never realized that pegasi come from eggs. For some reason, that tickles my funny bone.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  22:45:00  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It makes me wonder where one can purchase a tarrasque egg.

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  12:55:47  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cards77

How about the market price of a Red Dragon Egg? One of my PC's found one.

Also, my druid PC would eventually like to train and raise a Roc. I will probably make her solo quest for an egg but wondering what the price of a Roc egg would be?



According to my 2nd ed sources, roc eggs *sell* for 2d6x100gp. If you use the typical method for determining prices, this means you can buy one for twice that price.

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Marco Volo
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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  08:51:56  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for your help, and the Pathfinder list is a good handouts !
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