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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 01:03:11
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in the mage class Vecna would be a grand choice, but who for fighter and thief (mainly interested in these 2). but also any other classes
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Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 01:07:24
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Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 01:16:19
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| not necessarily undead themselves, but commanding undead, or being in leage with them, u know? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Jacinth Greyfox
Acolyte
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 07:54:53
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| Yes, Vecna is a good choice however according to the campaign setting Velsharoon is also in the running. As he is less well know he has rthe advantage you an do what you like with his church and followers. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 11:47:34
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There was an undead 'tiefling' rogue who was also the head of a vast multi-planar criminal organisation, which had operations running on a number of Material Planes. The actual organisation, called 'The Seven Fingered Hand' (you had to read the adventure write-up to understand why they call themselves that) was detailed in a special appendix to an old 2e adventure...I'll look through my tomes for more details. It had stats for the rogue leader, whose name I can't seem to remember at the moment...it was something, 'something Black'.
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Jacinth Greyfox
Acolyte
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 18:24:26
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| How about the Vampire Wizard whos taken over the Westgate Thieves Guild? ( thieves and wizards, nice multi-tasking!) |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2004 : 00:23:49
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You mean, Orbakar, one of the clones of Manshoon? Yes, I think he would be one. Hey, how about Szass Tam of the Red Wizards of Thay? He is a very powerful lich...
EDIT: I forgot to mention one more. The Twisted Runes. They are an organization created by a group of powerful liches and vampires. I think they would be pretty good undead lords... |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2004 : 15:44:13
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At the risk of being obvious, Larloch.
Although the home Realms campaign has also featured some "good" liches (one of them made it into the Shadows of Avatar novels, and another into Temptation), and Ed did have one who meddled and manipulated (as Elminster does) from hiding, to preserve a realm (no guessing which one, now :} ). |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2004 : 15:19:31
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hmmm, saving a Realm... The Hooded One is ALSO a meddler!
Okay, either Cormyr (bearauble?) or Cormanthor - (Srinshree? or do I reacall she still 'living' but in stasis [or something similar])
cheers
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
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love to all,
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Lord Teclis
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2006 : 09:21:10
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If you looked at non-deity individuals then the following would certainly be in the running....
Larloch
That Undead Elder Brain
Umvour the Undying
Shoon in his original demi-lich form..
Most of the Twisted Rune
However there are some extreamley powerful individuals in the supplement Lords of the Night: Vampires. The First are a council of 2000+ year old vampires who all have epic class levels as well. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 10:36:23
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Hrm... okay, THO, I have to take a guess at this one... a good lich meddling and manipulating from hiding to preserve a realm... I can think of several, including one that has actually appeared in print:
Bandarl[I think?] - High Old One of Dumathoin, keeper of the secrets of the Melairkyn (Undermountain Dungeon Crawl, 2E)
Ioulaum - hybrid human/Illithid Elder Brain - possibly a protector of the powerful magic of the Old Netherese...
Baerauble (Cormyr) is a neat idea... I think I'll use that, whether it's NDA canon or not...
We know now that the Srinshee isn't a lich, but it's good to see her back in the Realms.
Hmm... what about Larloch? The question there is, which realm? So many kingdoms have come and gone in the North that it doesn't make sense for him to be the one involved... unless the realm in question is his own little lichdom and all of his servitor liches...
I just hope we see something come out of this NDA... and if it can be rescinded due to a project being dropped or released, that would be nice too; this thread *is* four and a half years old... not to mention the fact that it's been almost two years since its last post. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 10:46:20
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Originally posted by The Sage
There was an undead 'tiefling' rogue who was also the head of a vast multi-planar criminal organisation, which had operations running on a number of Material Planes. The actual organisation, called 'The Seven Fingered Hand' (you had to read the adventure write-up to understand why they call themselves that) was detailed in a special appendix to an old 2e adventure...I'll look through my tomes for more details. It had stats for the rogue leader, whose name I can't seem to remember at the moment...it was something, 'something Black'.
And the adventure was called...?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 16:31:19
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
And the adventure was called...?
You know, I actually don't remember. It's been well over four years now since I mentioned that. I do remember looking the information up. I just can't recall which adventure it was. Looks like I'll have to go searching once again.  |
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