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Shadowsoul
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 Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 13:50:22
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In the early history of Toril, it was ruled by giants and dragons. Are there any ruins left of their once great kingdoms?
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Gary Dallison
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 15:00:05
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| In the fire giant nation of Helligheim there was the fortress that today is known as Ironfang Keep |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 16:09:23
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| wasnt dark arrow keep built by giants????? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 17:20:21
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Dark Arrow Keep - now Citadel Felbarr - was dwarf-built.
I think you are thinking of The Citadel of the Raven, and in that case, maybe, maybe not. There is evidence it was built by human-sized beings, but there is also evidence it may have been an even older site created by someone else (as in, before the humans became advanced enough to build such a thing).
On the other hand, there was a short story that unfortunately depicted 'modern' humans (physically) in VERY ancient times, as part of the dragon kingdoms, so who's to say? I had a theory once that it was the Citadel built by the elf that escaped in that story - the one that created the Dracorage Mythal. Since that time, I have learned more lore trumped that theory (the location of that was better-defined in another story, so it couldn't have been the same place, sadly).
There are also giant-sized ruins all throughout the isles of the Sea of Fallen Stars, and along the southern coast of Faerūn (in/near Halruaa). There is an ancient giant kingdom - Fuirgar - in the Giant's Belt Mountains, down near the Shining Lands (near Raurin). No details, and since they are still there, perhaps not as 'ruinous' as you might be looking for (although if a kingdom 'in decline', then the ones that are left would indeed be living within their own ancient ruins). There is also a series of articles about the Portals of the Frozen Wastes that have some giantish ruins.
I know there are lots of others - those are just a few off the top of my head. |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 18:13:07
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Actually, I think sfdragon was thinking of Darkhold, which WAS built by giants. At least according to its initial write-up in the Castles set, it was built more than a 1000 years before the present, though its origins are shrouded in mystery.
Which is somewhat foolish, since there were all manner of people living in that area a thousand years ago (not to mention elves and/or humans over the mountains to the east that became Cormyr). Plenty of folks to see and take notice. So it's more likely that Darkhold is what Castles suggests: simply a fortress of giant bandits, rather than a ruin from the long-fallen empires.
Though it could easily be a bandit fort built on the ruins of an earlier giant edifice. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 18:45:21
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| or was it Blackarrow keep..... the one listed in the 3e silvermarches book |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 20:00:59
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LOL - FR has no shortage of 'long abandoned' keeps.  |
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sfdragon
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Posted - 10 Jan 2014 : 22:30:53
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Originally posted by Markustay
LOL - FR has no shortage of 'long abandoned' keeps.
and that goes without saying.... because some of them are long ago enough that they qualify as forgotten or lost.
Could you imagine having an module that has you looking for this one long lost forgotten keep, that you start in the family keep that has been in the family for 250 years, and you end up where you began after piecing the clues together finding out that the ruined keep of Shining thunder is in fact the keep that has been in the family for 250 years........ |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
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Where are the ruins of the giant kingdoms?
