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Bane of the Harpers
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Canada
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 Posted - 26 Dec 2013 : 05:39:52
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Hello everyone,
Is there an official map of the Shoon Imperium somehwere? I have the approximate limits of the empire but it would be preferable for me to get my hands on an official map.
Thanks for your help!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 26 Dec 2013 : 17:34:42
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None as far as I know.
A problem arises when one tries to apply the 2e description of the Empire to the mangled 3e map(s) - in some places the terrain got so twisted the old descriptions no longer make much sense. At least one 'fallen realm' (Mir?) winds up being a narrow (50 miles?) strip that extends over 500 hundred miles long, east-to-west.
We simply lost too much of the 'empty areas' to account for a lot these lost kingdoms/empires.
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Dec 2013 : 07:25:11
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| No official maps, no. I doubt that you'd find a fan-made one either truth be told. |
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Bane of the Harpers
Seeker
Canada
53 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2013 : 04:05:29
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Thanks Markus and Hashimashadoo!
On the same subject....Can we say that Halruaa was a contemporary of Shoon? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 28 Dec 2013 : 06:42:34
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Indeed it was.
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Dec 2013 : 16:24:19
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| Yes, the first netherese colonists arrived in what would become Halruaa well over 300 years before the founding of the Imperium. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2013 : 17:16:24
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Now you have me thinking that Haluraa may have pulled a covert op in the Shaar region - it seems no matter how man times the Shoon tried to invade and hold onto that territory, they kept being pushed back out by Shaarans. Given how primitive most Sharans (then) lived, it would make sense if they were getting some sort of under-the-table help.
I recall a thread on the WotC site about some of the history of the Shaar, and someone theorizd that Calimshoan/Shoon would have come into conflict with the Old Empires at some point. We know they fought with Jhaamdath, so why not everyone else? If you were a 'mighty empire', and another empire was pushing into the lands to your south (lands you yourself have had repeated 'barbarian problems' with in the past), wouldn't you do something about it? In fact, whenever the Old Empires were threatened from that direction, it was one of the few times they worked together to squash such uprisings. I could see a united Unther/Mulhorand army marching against the Shoon... perhaps with some secret help (from afar) from Halruaan casters.
Hmmmmm... I've often wondered how a young kingdom like Cormyr was able to so handily beat the Shoon (and everyone else) back then. Might the Halruaans have their hand in world affairs more then we think? Illuminati-style?  |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Dec 2013 : 05:43:42
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Well, I'd imagine Cormyr managed to beat Shoon back because King Ashar of Valashar (who was the instigator of the expansion that came to Cormyr's borders) had overstretched his forces WAY too much. It may have taken 35 years to conquer that territory but it was well over 500 miles square of land (and probably suffered regular raids by a certain 'Baron of Steeping Falls').
I am more inclined to agree with the theory of a shadow antagonist when it comes to the Shaar though. |
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Bane of the Harpers
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 29 Dec 2013 : 07:07:17
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I suppose there is nothing on Shoon/Halruaan disputed in any official books?
I'M pretty sure that an expansion south of the Shaar might have been imagined by one Shoon Emperor or the other....What do you think? |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Dec 2013 : 10:53:04
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| Maybe a two-pronged attack from through the Shaar and from Lapaliiya. I wouldn't fancy the Imperium's chances though. |
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Map of Shoon Imperium
