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Aaren Icetear
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  00:21:09  Show Profile Send Aaren Icetear a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi everybody, I'm looking for some advices in order to prepare a new campaign.

What if a group of dwarven adventurers found an hidden cave by chance in the Frost Hills, more or less 15 miles from Mithral Hall?

Is the dungeon supposed to be subject to Bruenor's authority (1374 DR)?

Are the adventurers allowed to loot the cave and keep every treasure found, or should they present their discoveries to the King?

Thanks a lot guys :) and sorry for my bad english.

The Arcanamach
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  01:12:47  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure BEAST will be along with a better answer but I would include 15 miles to be within Bruenor's sphere of control (I'd go to at least a 50 mile radius centered on the Hall, likely more).

Of course, that assumes that you believe Bruenor's kingdom extends above ground (I believe it does). My point is many dwarven kingdoms in literature concern themselves only with matters below ground except where trade must come to the surface.

I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one.

Edited by - The Arcanamach on 19 Oct 2013 01:16:19
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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  01:27:58  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A day, or mule walk, from secure stations tends to be limit of borders. 15 miles clearly should be in sphere of influence, if not fully under control.

One would suspect that being that near a treaty would be advised, to prevent the high risk of conflict. This of course infers that the party knows that they are that close to Mithral Hall. I would say they should discuss the matter with the King, if they know they are that close.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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BEAST
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  05:10:32  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In days of yore, the Stout Folk would not have concerned themselves much with the lands of the World Above. But the degradation of most Delzoun kingdoms and clans forced many dwarves to interact with other races. Exposure to the Harpers brought about a newfound respect and value for surface lands surrounding old dwarven fortresses.

Dwarves Deep says that dwarves command the lands for a day's ride beyond the Great Rift, and once did so concerning the town of Secomber, as well. So this would seem to be a good working rule.

Dwarven law says that no dwarf may steal from another dwarf, and this would include deprivation of property by deceit.

So tradition would say that any discoveries would need to be declared to King Bruenor.

With Mithral Hall's famous output of crafted goods, I'm thinking good King Bruenor would happily let any goodly adventurers keep the spoils of their labors. A round o' Gutbuster for his court would surely persuade him to do so!

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  05:26:30  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with BEAST...as well as the fact that any lost dwarven relics/artifacts (not truly magical...but old and lost items) returned to the dwarves could do nothing short of earn respect and favor from any clan they might be returned to!

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Aaren Icetear
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  16:48:06  Show Profile Send Aaren Icetear a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you all guys :)
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TBeholder
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Posted - 19 Oct 2013 :  23:49:24  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Locals also would very much like to know the details. Starting from the little matter of a hidden cave located within one day's walk from them as such. I don't see how its contents won't be interesting for them either, as this is very likely to be somehow linked to their history and/or potential local dangers.
Thus, even aside of the treasure (unless it indeed belongs to a local clan or something), and whether it's their territory (and with King Bruenor it rather obviously is, between orcs and trade partners he have to keep an eye on surface), there's also a matter of common courtesy.

The real answer, of course, is "depends on how friendly this group is with Mithral Hall, or rather wants to be".

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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