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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 03:47:32
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Can anyone point me to any lore pertaining to which elven Houses have baelnorn? Specifically, which ones have the most baelnorns in the family and which ones are watchnorns (assuming there is a difference b/w the two)? I would also like to know about any unique types of baelnorn that are known. I know one such has mithril skin or something along those lines.
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 15:15:58
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The best source would be Cormanthyr. Ruins of Myth Drannor, which introduced baelnorn, said there were at least 20 still alive in the ruins (and that there were many more before the Fall), but only names one: Ilrune Symbaern.
To this Cormanthyr adds a number of unnamed baelnorn (like the Guardian Paramours) as well as some named ones like:
* Synnorha Durothil
* The Audark clan
* Two unnamed Haladars
* Braerinda Calauth (the baelnorn with the mithril skin, the result of a unique spell)
The term "watchnorn" is one of several nicknames given by elves to give a general sense of what the baelnorn does. Cormanthyr lists several such:
* Watchnorns: lurking observers and lesser guardians of public places or family lands, especially Castle Cormanthor
* Lorenorns: those choosing to act as tutors, librarians, or merely students of Art beyond their normal span of years
* Guardnorns or Wardnorns: powerful guardians of crypts and other secret places or as the sole protector of particularly powerful items
Though it's made clear that all baelnorn can and often do do all of these. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1885 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 15:26:05
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| Thank you sir. I have access to that lore, I was just hoping there might some lore I missed. I didn't buy much of anything from 4e, for instance, which means I may have missed some new lore on the topic. Cheers. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 15:31:54
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Originally posted by The Arcanamach
Thank you sir. I have access to that lore, I was just hoping there might some lore I missed. I didn't buy much of anything from 4e, for instance, which means I may have missed some new lore on the topic. Cheers.
If I remember correctly, Elminster visited several baelnorns in the novel, Elminster in Hell. Unfortunately, I can't recall their family names, or what he discussed with them. But I'm pretty sure it was that novel.
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1885 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 15:46:41
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| I recall something along those lines in a novel now that you mention it. Mayhaps I will need to re-read it after I finish my current books. Thanks. Of course, if anyone wants to save me the trouble, I would be much obliged. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 16:44:04
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There's a few others like:
Ilrune Symbaern
Tordynnar Rhaevaern
For a time the Srinshee was one.
Alarendi Eveningshine
There's a few others mentioned in 3e material but they weren't given clan/surnames so I didn't post them, or they weren't named at all. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 13 Aug 2013 16:46:39 |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1607 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 11:52:21
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There is a baelnorn in The Lost Library of Cormanthyr novel. I don't remember his name, though, gotta check it out at home.
EDIT: Here it is, in page 282 - Nevft Scoontiphp |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
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Edited by - Barastir on 14 Aug 2013 21:37:15 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36971 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 00:22:56
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Originally posted by Barastir
There is a baelnorn in The Lost Library of Cormanthyr novel. I don't remember his name, though, gotta check it out at home.
EDIT: Here it is, in page 282 - Nevft Scoontiphp
Looks more like a gnomish name... |
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ksu_bond
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 00:37:18
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If I recall correctly, these are a few others:
Lashyrr Maerdrymm, from Sea Devil's Eye
Corineus, from The Siege
Miroden Silverblade, from Pool of Radiance
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 03:53:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Barastir
There is a baelnorn in The Lost Library of Cormanthyr novel. I don't remember his name, though, gotta check it out at home.
EDIT: Here it is, in page 282 - Nevft Scoontiphp
Looks more like a gnomish name...
I'm going from memory, but I think Nevft was indeed an elven baelnorn.
I also found it strange, because I'd initially placed Scoontiphp on my listing of official Realms gnomish names. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1885 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 07:21:24
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| I would never use that name for an elf, especially a kewl baelnorn. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36971 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 12:55:37
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Barastir
There is a baelnorn in The Lost Library of Cormanthyr novel. I don't remember his name, though, gotta check it out at home.
EDIT: Here it is, in page 282 - Nevft Scoontiphp
Looks more like a gnomish name...
I'm going from memory, but I think Nevft was indeed an elven baelnorn.
I also found it strange, because I'd initially placed Scoontiphp on my listing of official Realms gnomish names.
Oh, I wasn't questioning that -- I was just commenting that the name doesn't look any kind of elvish. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1607 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 18:26:58
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| I'm with The Arcanamach, I think I'd use a more elvish name if I ever had the intention of bringing a baelnorn in my campaign. But Mel Odom chose this name, and it was published, so here it is... |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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(by Ed Greenwood) |
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