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Knightfall
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Canada
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  02:08:02  Show Profile  Visit Knightfall's Homepage Send Knightfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Okay,

I'm curious to find out how many alternate aspects, identities, and names Lloth has/had?

Does she have any male aspects?

ksu_bond
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New Zealand
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  02:18:07  Show Profile Send ksu_bond a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pre-4e, Selvatarm was a male drow deity in the service of Lloth who acted as her "champion"
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Irennan
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Italy
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  02:28:47  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moander is one of her Aliases. So is Zinzerena (some kind of assassin interloper demipower who was banished by Lolth).

Selvetarm is one of her lackeys, but definitely not an aspect.

So her only ''male'' aspect is Moander, AFAIK.

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.
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ksu_bond
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  05:14:08  Show Profile Send ksu_bond a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't mean to imply that Selvetarm was an alias, but as most of his worshipers would have been male, I thought he would be worth mentioning.
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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  21:10:42  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is Moander really male or neuter? It might have been called he just for simplicity. I think of Moander as a thing. (Ghaunadaur, too)
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TBeholder
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  06:21:17  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't forget the Wise Queen (worshippers: K'r'r'r; alignment: Lawful Evil?). Which may or may not be another "hijacked" role and/or (going by a minor, but telling detail) a power creep assisted by Selvetarm.

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silverwolfer
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  06:32:19  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Overall Lolth is more the type that forces others to do her work, rather then do it herself. Am sure she has a thing or two at one point or anther when she had to do something fully by herself.

But she really is the archtype of manipulating your best friend to have sex with your lover, and then you get in a rage and kill your best friend, all while the lover was a drow polymorphed to only look like the lover, and the lover walks in shocked to see blood on the lovers hands, and gets the murderer in prison for the rest of their lives.
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jerrod
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  07:33:41  Show Profile Send jerrod a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bravo! Silverwolf...you hit the nail right on the head. And if the elder eye wasn't male he wouldn't have tried to woo lolth after the seldarine wars.

I haven't been here in years but I used to be DARKFLAME MILLITHOR(DROW ARCHMAGE of wildmagic
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Lilianviaten
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  09:45:52  Show Profile Send Lilianviaten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jerrod

Bravo! Silverwolf...you hit the nail right on the head. And if the elder eye wasn't male he wouldn't have tried to woo lolth after the seldarine wars.



If he wasn't male, he would have had a chance with her. She hates males so much, that I doubt she could ever be happy with one. Shar's all into darkness and evil too, so that's probably her best option.

Seriously though, if Loviatar can find love, there really is someone out there for everyone.
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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  15:48:42  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An entity does not need to be male to try to woo a woman
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Irennan
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Italy
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  15:53:34  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that a slime thingy would have a hard time trying to woo anything...

And don't come up with ''gods can assume various forms'' because -while true-, that would extend to gender itself, rendering this matter pointless.

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.
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jerrod
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  22:24:24  Show Profile Send jerrod a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lilian is SO right. I hadn't considered that!

I haven't been here in years but I used to be DARKFLAME MILLITHOR(DROW ARCHMAGE of wildmagic
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jerrod
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  22:27:16  Show Profile Send jerrod a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shar would have tried to subsume lolth like the elder eye. Would have,had he/it succeeded in seducing her. Shar seems to like eating other gods...

I haven't been here in years but I used to be DARKFLAME MILLITHOR(DROW ARCHMAGE of wildmagic
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silverwolfer
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  22:27:46  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
who did she fall in love with?
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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 09 Aug 2013 :  05:36:13  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Deities themselves could be more like immaterial beings that can create avatars so Ghaundaur's form is whatever avatars it has. Immaterial entities might woo in different ways.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 15 Aug 2013 :  06:39:33  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jerrod

Shar would have tried to subsume lolth like the elder eye. Would have,had he/it succeeded in seducing her. Shar seems to like eating other gods...
This would give this fling at least some thrill...

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch
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