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YoDrow
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  01:26:43  Show Profile Send YoDrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello!

As a teen I read all the Drizzt novels and stopped at The lone drow. That was 10 years ago. A few months ago I started to read them all again. I'm almost finished with The two swords..

Now, besides Drizzt books, I'm also planning to read the War of the Spider Queen series. But I would like to read the Transitions trilogy first. Looking at the timeline of the stories, the first book of the Transitions trilogy is during the same year as the War of he Spider Queen saga. But the two other books are several years later. So, I'm wanderng if I would be spoiled with anyting if I don't read the War of the Spider Queen first. Maybe there is no link at all between the two series but I'm afraid to look too far and spoiled part of the stories.

Thanks!

Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  01:39:00  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To my recollection the events of Transitions and War of the Spider Queen are completely unrelated and don't touch on each other at all.

Granted, I haven't actually read the War of the Spider Queen series, but I can't recall anything being mentioned about it in any of the Transitions novels.

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BEAST
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  03:11:32  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nah, I don't think there is any sort of overlap between the two different series, at all. You should be safe, reading either series straight through in its entirety.

The Two Swords takes place in late 1371 DR, and then The Orc King picks up in early through mid-1372 DR.

"WOTSQ" takes place late 1372 through early 1373 DR.

Then The Pirate King occurs in 1376 through 1377 DR, and The Ghost King takes place in mid-1385 DR.

There might be a minor blurb about Jarlaxle's thoughts on the goings-on in Menzo in TGK, but that should be it. Jar's band had been focusing on surface operations during most of this time, instead of on the homefront.

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Lilianviaten
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  06:23:26  Show Profile Send Lilianviaten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

Nah, I don't think there is any sort of overlap between the two different series, at all. You should be safe, reading either series straight through in its entirety.

The Two Swords takes place in late 1371 DR, and then The Orc King picks up in early through mid-1372 DR.

"WOTSQ" takes place late 1372 through early 1373 DR.

Then The Pirate King occurs in 1376 through 1377 DR, and The Ghost King takes place in mid-1385 DR.

There might be a minor blurb about Jarlaxle's thoughts on the goings-on in Menzo in TGK, but that should be it. Jar's band had been focusing on surface operations during most of this time, instead of on the homefront.



Beast, I've got a question for you regarding Luskan. Having read all of Salvatore's recent books, I know that the drow having been operating there for some time. I remember way back in the day when they used Morik the Rogue as their first agent into the city. Well, in Erik Scott de Bie's book "Shadowbane", Luskan is the setting. There are no drow mentioned, nor high captains. In his books, street gangs control everything. Luskan seems to be in even worse shape by then (as if that's even possible). So do you know the years for these respective stories? I would guess that Shadowbane takes place after all of Salvatore's books, but I can't be sure.
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BEAST
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  16:18:11  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten

Well, in Erik Scott de Bie's book "Shadowbane", Luskan is the setting. There are no drow mentioned, nor high captains. In his books, street gangs control everything. Luskan seems to be in even worse shape by then (as if that's even possible). So do you know the years for these respective stories? I would guess that Shadowbane takes place after all of Salvatore's books, but I can't be sure.

No, I haven't read any of Erik's books--only one of his short stories. So I don't know the dates. But I'm sure if you asked him here at the Keep, he would happily tell you.

RAS has written that the high captains controlled Luskan in The Ghost King, Gauntlgrym, and Neverwinter. There are certainly street gangs or criminal guilds at work in the town, though. When Drizzt and Bruenor visisted Luskan in Gaunt., the guards wore no uniforms, or even any insignia tying back to a particular high captain's ship. They looked just like a ragtag band of thugs.

But the high captains do still exist and rule in the works of RAS. So apparently the nature of their rule has apparently changed over time, becoming much looser and less formal. They may be mere figureheads for most Luskanites, these days. For most Luskanites, the middle-men in Luskan's criminal enterprises may take and get the credit.

In Gaunt., Jar and Dahlia have a conversation in which Dahlia says that her Thayan intelligence reports on Luskan tell her that the high captains have taken over full leadership of Luskan, and Jarlaxle insists that that is only the way that the drow want things to appear. We still don't know who had the right of it, in that particular conversation.

Perhaps the high captains are following the drow's lead, effectively serving as "silent partners" to the more public gang leaders of Luskan, nowadays?

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Tanthalas
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Posted - 08 Jul 2013 :  19:24:26  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lilianviaten

quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

Nah, I don't think there is any sort of overlap between the two different series, at all. You should be safe, reading either series straight through in its entirety.

The Two Swords takes place in late 1371 DR, and then The Orc King picks up in early through mid-1372 DR.

"WOTSQ" takes place late 1372 through early 1373 DR.

Then The Pirate King occurs in 1376 through 1377 DR, and The Ghost King takes place in mid-1385 DR.

There might be a minor blurb about Jarlaxle's thoughts on the goings-on in Menzo in TGK, but that should be it. Jar's band had been focusing on surface operations during most of this time, instead of on the homefront.



Beast, I've got a question for you regarding Luskan. Having read all of Salvatore's recent books, I know that the drow having been operating there for some time. I remember way back in the day when they used Morik the Rogue as their first agent into the city. Well, in Erik Scott de Bie's book "Shadowbane", Luskan is the setting. There are no drow mentioned, nor high captains. In his books, street gangs control everything. Luskan seems to be in even worse shape by then (as if that's even possible). So do you know the years for these respective stories? I would guess that Shadowbane takes place after all of Salvatore's books, but I can't be sure.



The Shadowbane stories take place in 1479 DR, at least a decade (probably more) after the events of any of Drizzt's recent books. Only the last part of The Last Threshold took place near the timeline of the Shadowbane series (but still a couple of years earlier I think).

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