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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 21 Jun 2013 : 21:45:47
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Link to the product page: LINK
Once more I find myself loving the artwork. I like seeing different character classes/races on the cover of adventures, especially with lots of detail.
I'd really like to get a peak inside the adventure to see what the interior artwork is like.
Tip of the hat to EN World for revealing this bit of news.
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Edited by - Jeremy Grenemyer on 21 Jun 2013 21:47:47
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2013 : 21:55:22
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"Legacy of the Crystal Shard"?
That title sounds a bit like a joke, kinda like "Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers". |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works"> |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2013 : 21:55:34
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I want to see the artwork a bit larger before passing final judgement but from that thumbnail, it looks REALLY good. Loving the throwback to an Elmore style cover of adventurers looking at the artist and ready for action with a dramatic backdrop (seeds of the Chronicles covers).
The Legacy of the Crystal Shard is a good hook, nostalgia for old players but intriguing for new. |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2013 : 22:13:23
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Originally posted by Seravin
The Legacy of the Crystal Shard is a good hook, nostalgia for old players but intriguing for new.
Yup. That's what caught my eye too.
That and you don't have to meet the GenCon prerequisite to buy this adventure.  |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2013 : 23:55:54
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| Not a huge fan of the artwork but that's no surprise. I prefer the older stuff. |
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Euranna
Learned Scribe
USA
219 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2013 : 00:50:30
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I am excited for this as well. I have theories (purely my own guesses) on the why the Crystal Shard needs to be dealt with again. :D
I think it will be very interesting. |
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2013 : 03:42:30
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| I don't really see an issue with the title of the product. I, too, am looking forward to it. |
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Plaguescarred
Learned Scribe
Canada
190 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2013 : 11:43:45
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2013 : 21:33:07
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Originally posted by Matt James
I don't really see an issue with the title of the product. I, too, am looking forward to it.
It just sounded like a mash-up of old RAS titles (The Legacy and The Crystal Shard), as if they weren't being very creative.
Sea of Sylvan Streams of Dissolution . . .
Passage of The Pirate King . . .
Exile to Extinction . . .
If Ever They Happened Upon The Halfling's Gem . . .
Siege of Empty Joys . . .
The Silent Stowaway . . .
The Chaos Claw . . .
Charon's Canticle . . .
Bones and Bloodstone . . .
Promise of the Patriarch . . .
etc.
This may all very well be quite innocuous and unintentional, though. |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36896 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 05:35:15
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At least it wasn't The Road to Waterdeep. "Look out, folks, Entreri's about to sing!"
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 07:01:03
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Originally posted by BEAST
It just sounded like a mash-up of old RAS titles.
Heh.
When I read the adventure's title and its description, what came to my mind wasn't "The Crystal Shard", but rather "The Dark Crystal". |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 16:01:10
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My only reservation ATM is that I/we already know what became of the Shard, thanks to TGK, so I have to wonder at what sort of half-baked plot they had to come up with in order to 'distill' the Crystal Shard back out of what it has become.
Unless they don't plan to do that at all, in which case the very title is misleading (since the Shard has 'evolved' into something else at this point).
I've also always felt there was some sort of connection between Vassa and Icewind Dale. Not an actual, canonical one, but rather, some sort of RW error that was made some time ago and the two were always meant to be one and the same. For instance, Castle Perilous sounds an awful lot like what the Shard is/does. I realize both were created by RAS, but there are too many similarities for it to just be attributed to it being the same designer... not to mention the weirdness on the back of the Bloodstone sourcebook itself (claiming Icewind dale is IN Vassa!) And then RAS brought his 'bad boys' over to Vassa and Damara for awhile, which ended abruptly (and strangely), just to shunt them off to Calimport (reminding me of a 'grand tour' of RAS-generated locales, just because he could).
So I guess what I am saying is that although I am looking forward to this because it is tied to The Sundering and 5e(FR), I have certain trepidations because of the subject matter and the weirdness concerning the Crystal Shard itself (and its possible connection to Castle Perilous... another Shard, perhaps?) |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 18:42:04
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| What if it delves into greater depth of detail on the Shard's past and previous owners? We really only have a little info on the liches who created it, Errtu, and one unnamed Zakharan sheikh. Maybe a review of the Shard's past could reveal some tendrils of history that will have some influence on the Sundering? |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works"> |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 18:50:35
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
When I read the adventure's title and its description, what came to my mind wasn't "The Crystal Shard", but rather "The Dark Crystal".
You know, I've had the same reaction. I've thought that some superficial studio employee might read a screenplay for "Dark Elf: The Crystal Shard", and immediately confuse that with "The Dark Crystal".
That could work in the movie's favor, if the studio reader were a sci-fi/fantasy geek who never lost touch with her inner child.
But if she were superficial, or petty, or just in a cranky mood, she might see the whole situation as a great opportunity to prove how knowing and superior she was, and then trash the story as being too cheesy and derivative of that commerciallly unsuccessful flick.
Therefore, I propose that the first Drizzt film be entitled "Dark Elf: The Shard". Shades of "The Dark Knight"? Edgy reference to a shard? No mention of the word crystal?
It might work. |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works"> |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jul 2013 : 15:46:49
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"Dark Elf Rising"  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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carbos
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Jul 2013 : 21:29:30
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Originally posted by BEASTExile to Extinction . . .
Sounds like Excursion into Extinction. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2013 : 13:11:28
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Originally posted by Markustay
"Dark Elf Rising"
Love this one. |
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Lothlos
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
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Plaguescarred
Learned Scribe
Canada
190 Posts |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2013 : 02:29:24
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| I like seeing artwork depicting characters from the novels. Good stuff. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
408 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2013 : 12:23:24
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I rather like this adventure and see it as a huge improvement over the turgid dreck that was Murder in Baldur's Gate. I could actually see myself running this (of course, I would have to replacement the R A Salvatore names with names that suited the Realms but that's why I have a big list of names by Ed).
I still don't think it's really suited to the Encounters format but I think it's a pretty solid adventure framework (still no encounter maps) for a home game.
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Originally posted by Markustay (snip) Unless they don't plan to do that at all, in which case the very title is misleading (since the Shard has 'evolved' into something else at this point).(snip)
The title is accurate and the adventure doesn't in any way contradict the Salvatore novels. The "solution" they came up with works fairly well, IMO.
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Originally posted by BEAST
Does the launch kit contain anything that will not be in the final product?
Or is it basically just a bunch of excerpts?
There's a short introductory adventure which will probably be on the website in the next few weeks, as that is what happened with Murder in Baldur's Gate. |
Cheers
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2013 : 02:50:07
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Lothlos
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2013 : 02:58:16
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| When I receive my book I will let you know, if someone has not posted already. |
The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.
-J.R.R. Tolkien
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2013 : 03:16:19
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe
France
204 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2013 : 09:31:20
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Originally posted by farinal
Does the book include the maps and all that npc cards and stuff or was it only for the launch event?
Nope, there's no such things as cards and maps, except for the map of the setting itself (Tentowns and Icewind dale) and the maps of the features like the tower (sectional views).
Sorry if I say something terrible here, but when I see the trailer of the coming soon Disney movie "Frozen" it sounds very much like the end of the "Legacy of the Crystal Shard" adventure. With adventurers replaced by sisters. And songs. |
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2013 : 17:57:31
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| I still don't get it if the maps on the link are there or not if that is what you mean. But I think I'll get this one. I disliked the Baldur's Gate adventure for some reasons (didn't liked the cover, the fact that there wasn't much info on the setting) and it just didn't seem that interesting to me. But I love Icewind Dale. Open the Icewind Dale OST in the background and play this while it's snowing in this winter :D |
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 16:12:08
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| BTW do you need any information on the first Sundering adventure or Sundering stuff in general to play this? Is it playable on its own without the need for anything else? |
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe
France
204 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 22:06:48
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Originally posted by farinal
BTW do you need any information on the first Sundering adventure or Sundering stuff in general to play this?
No.
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Originally posted by farinal
Is it playable on its own without the need for anything else?
Yes.
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 22:10:03
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
408 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2013 : 12:34:50
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The more I delve into this adventure, the more I like it.
The highest bit of praise I can give it is that I want to expand it into a larger campaign. Legacy has caught my imagination in a way that Murder in Baldur's Gate did not, in part because there is so much space on the regional map to fill in.
There's room for R A Salvatore's 2E adventure The Accursed Tower, the Caves of Chaos from B2 Keep on the Borderlands, the original G1-3 Against the Giants series and so much more.
WotC has done well this time.
(IMO. YMMV.) |
Cheers
D
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Sundering #2: Legacy of the Crystal Shard
