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Venger
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 20 May 2013 : 03:12:45
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| Crap, it's dah poh-lice. Leg it, boys! |
"Beware what you say when you speak of magic, wizard, or you shall see who has the greater power." |
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 03:26:13
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Curse you Venger! Had you continued to write in invisible ink the Sage would have never caught on to what we were doing! 
As punishment for revealing this, I'm sending Lysa's little Sweet Robin to you. He is your new ward, and you must raise him until adulthood.  |
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Venger
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 03:28:23
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| Well, he's definitely going to have difficulty adjusting because, contrary to what some may have heard from Greg Focker, ain't nobody getting any milk out of my nipples. |
"Beware what you say when you speak of magic, wizard, or you shall see who has the greater power." |
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 03:38:18
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
1221 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 11:33:20
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Martin generally speaking doesn't bring up plot hooks and then leaving them hanging only for nothing to happen with them. He'll start a plot only for it to end and to have been absolutely pointless, or he'll drag it out way too long, but he generally speaking doesn't dangle a thread and then ignore it the whole time.
That was my big problem with 4e; and being the person who's argued most fervently in favor of 4e on these boards, I did have problems with it. The big ones were they introduced huge new elements or huge changes in the status quo and did nothing with them. Returned Abier? Nothing. Many-Arrows? Nothing. End of the Blood War? Nothing.
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"Then I saw there was a way to Hell even from the gates of Heaven"
- John Bunyan, Pilgrim's Progress
Fatum Iustum Stultorum. Righteous is the destiny of fools.
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Venger
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 18:06:40
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I had a similar problem with 4E, except that it killed a number of pre-existing plot threads that I was waiting to see develop. The percolating conflict between Mulhorand and Thay? Gone. The newly risen Zhentil Keep? It was reduced to ruins again. The regency of Alusair Obarskyr? Somebody hit the fast forward button and now it's over. I wanted to see how all those things would develop but then it was all cut short.
To quote Daffy Duck, "what a revolting development this is." |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
662 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 10:14:01
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2013 : 11:41:03
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| And he would have killed-off the Chosen (and everyone else) the old fashioned way. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 13:34:02
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Originally posted by Markustay
And he would have killed-off the Chosen (and everyone else) the old fashioned way.
I can only imagine what he would have done to Mystra... |
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Venger
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 18:43:46
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| Had her throat cut and return as Zombie Mystra? |
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 21:44:24
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Originally posted by Venger
Had her throat cut and return as Zombie Mystra?
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 21:54:15
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| Whoa...I thought something was wrong with my web browser, what with all the seemingly textless posts. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
1280 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2013 : 22:47:35
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The 15th century Realms did take quite some awesome strides towards making elements of the setting believable and a tad more dark. So some of the changes (especially the deity culling and clerics getting annointed with divine powers for life) can be attributed to the rising crowd of Martin fans before and during the announcement window of the 4th edition Realms that called for a more gritty tone, as a reflection of what modern fantasy was undergoing with gritty authors such as Martin, Abercrombie, Weeks and Lawrence.
The results for the realms as a setting are mixed, but I have a firm opinion that the realms fiction during this period has benefitted greatly. The last 4E novels I read have all been exceptional, and are heaps and bounds better than earlier realms fiction. The setting as painted by the novels did pick up some good points made by the 'gritty-fantasy' crowd.
The real deal breaker for the setting as a story telling device are the dangling plot threads that were left to rot on the evergrowing appletree of the realms, and cut short by the overeager harvesters' need for apples 'now'. The spellplagued tree still has potential to blossom into something beautiful, if the authors and designers look at the realms first, and 'trends' in fantasy second.
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