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Aldrick
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 Posted - 12 May 2013 : 06:45:59
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CorellonsDevout - Yeah, I know what you mean about Shevarash walking the edge of the line. I like that about him as well. However, I do think it's almost inevitable - if his story line is played out - that he'll cross the line and jump off the slippery slope. I'm really curious as to what he and his church think about the "redeemed" Drow after the Lady Penitent trilogy.
Unfortunately, I can't use anything that I suggested in my Realms. For one, I've ignored most of what happened in the Lady Penitent. Eilistraee never died or faded to an Archfey. She simply absorbed her brother and became more like him, and began to really compete with Lolth for the favor of the Drow.
In effect, the conflict between Lolth and Eilistraee began to mimic the type of conflicts you see in Drow noble houses among mother and daughter. Now that I think of it, the attitude of Eilistraee is very similar to Shevarash, "Whatever it takes to destroy Lolth, I will do."
There is debate over whether or not Eilistraee slew Vhaeraun or whether he slew her. (The truth is Eilistraee killed her brother, and Lolth is secretly granting divine power to the clerics of Vhaeraun who believe he killed Eilistraee. She is using them as puppets against her daughter.)
All of this, of course, happened pre-Spellplague. I can't say what -EXACTLY- happened to Shevarash in my Realms, because I don't know yet. However, I'm pretty sure he's alive and kicking. The way the deities work and interact with their faithful changed after the Spellplague, thanks in part to what happened to the Weave (it's still around), but also because of new mandates created by Ao. This had a rather large impact on racial pantheons. (No one died or anything, it has mostly to do with the restructuring of the churches and how divine power is granted.)
Anyway, that's neither here nor there, and completely off topic.  |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 13 May 2013 : 03:40:13
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I would like to see a follow-up to LP, period. But there has been no more mention of the "brown drow" since that trilogy. Of course, when all the souls from Eilistraee's realm (and I suppose Vhaeraun's too, since they kind of seemed to merge) are now in Arvandor, so it's true that Shevarash might go completely insane to see all these drow there. He could go over the edge, it is true. He's on the verge...I guess I just don't want him to, LOL. I like him where he is. If he became evil, his portfolio would have to change, and deities changing portfolios can get annoying too.
And this is why I like stories involving deities, because you get truly interesting ones like Shevarash. I would love to see how he interacts with other members of the Seldarine. His personality is complex, and there really hasn't been a whole lot about him or his followers. I'd like to see more.
Out of all the deities that were killed, Eilistraee and Vhaeraun's death upset me the most, though I was miffed about the deaths of Mask and Deneir too.
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Aldrick
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Posted - 13 May 2013 : 06:27:56
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Yeah, I'd totally love to see how Shevarash and his faithful are handling the whole 'redeemed drow' thing. Let's not forget that many of those that were "redeemed" were still likely evil (especially if they were former followers of Vhaeraun).
In fact, I wonder what happened to those that used to follow Vhaeraun, but were redeemed? I don't really see many of them embracing Corellon... many of them starting to worship Fenmarel, perhaps? It's hard to think of any other deities in the Elven pantheon that would fit them. I'd imagine a sizable chunk of them probably started to worship human deities (Shar and Cyric feel like they're the most likely to me).
Now that I think about it I could imagine Cyric masquerading around as 'reborn & redeemed' Vhaeraun in order to scoop them up into his fold. He's a deity of lies and illusions after all.
Anyway, Shevarash is my favorite of all the Elven deities. There will always be room in my heart for crazies like him. |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 14 May 2013 : 01:41:04
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I know that when Eilistraee absorbed Vhaeraun (or whatever happened there), some of the Vhaeraunites started following the Masked Lady, and there were souls of former Vhaeraunites in her realm. I remember their voices being added to the "song" in E's realm. I assume those souls were taken to Arvandor, just as E's were. As for the ones still living...that is a good question. If Mask wasn't dead, I'd say he would be a likely candidate, but he is, so...
I like Shev too, which is one of the reasons I don't want him to fall over that edge. I personally feel it would change him for the worse. What I would like to see is more attention paid to him and/or his followers. |
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Rhymn
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Posted - 14 May 2013 : 23:15:05
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Originally posted by Aldrick
In fact, I wonder what happened to those that used to follow Vhaeraun, but were redeemed?
It's mentioned that some of them turned to Shar after the death of Vhaeraun but before the "great redemption."
The Lady Penitent left me scratching my head a bit. The dark elves lost their darkvision right after the redemption, so they likely lost other attributes that aid underground survival as well. Since the majority of the dark elves were probably in the Underdark when the great event happened, I imagine that most of them would have been immediately slaughtered by unredeemed drow, other denizens that didn't know any better (or didn't care), and monsters. So the victory of the redemption always struck me as more than a little hollow. |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 00:48:54
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| Where does it mentioned some turned to Shar? |
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Rhymn
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 05:22:33
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Where does it mentioned some turned to Shar?
If I recall correctly, it got a very brief mention (literally one line) in one of the novels right after Vhaeraun was killed. |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 06:52:39
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| Huh, I don`t remember that at all. I know when E and V "merged", they started worshiping her as the Masked Lady. Vhaeraun, while a deity of shadow, shares a different ideology than Shar. |
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silverwolfer
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jerrod
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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 : 22:31:19
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| Correllon is not too nice.all the inhabitants of arboria tend to hold grudges like their olympian neighbors.and he does have a small number of darkelven priest. Esspecially now that he has taken over elistraee's flock. |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 23 Jul 2013 : 03:10:54
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| He was nice enough to take in Eilistraee's "flock", which I'm sure Shevarash is none too happy about XD |
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Half-Drow Worshiper of Shevarash Possible?
