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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 05:33:03
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Ptolus, City by the Spire, is back in print.
I got my copy while they were still fairly easy to find... But if you didn't get it then, now is your chance! It's a massive tome, with a lot of niftiness in it.
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Edited by - The Sage on 09 Mar 2013 07:28:01
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 06:47:13
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Glad to see this monster is coming back.
Oddly enough, I'm thinking of getting rid of mine. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 07:35:13
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I love this book! And I especially love all the awesome extras that came with it.
Monte Cook really provided a fully workable setting that can stand equally well enough on it's own, or as a massively extensive part of some pre-existing world.
And I like that I can still thumb through its many hundreds of pages even today... years after it's initial release, and find little gems that are just begging for inclusion/expansion elsewhere. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 15:04:32
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| That book is chock-full of great stuff... My only complaint about it (other than the fact that my arms got tired of holding the book, when I was reading it!) was that to me, the idea that adventurers could start at level 1 and ascend to high levels without ever leaving town just doesn't work. Yes, in Ptolus it is possible, but I can't picture playing an adventurer who never wants to leave town. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 15:05:35
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
Oddly enough, I'm thinking of getting rid of mine.
Well, the amount of money you'd get for doing so just went down. |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 22:20:05
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
Oddly enough, I'm thinking of getting rid of mine.
Well, the amount of money you'd get for doing so just went down.
Heh, probably so. I can't imagine getting much for it anyway, as the place I sell my books off too pays only a small percentage of what Amazon charges for books (they use Amazon as a price guideline).
The good news is this same place (Rasputin's) charges at most a few bucks for large hardcovers.
Hopefully some kid new to D&D finds that book and uses it like crazy. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2013 : 22:32:22
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
Oddly enough, I'm thinking of getting rid of mine.
Well, the amount of money you'd get for doing so just went down.
Heh, probably so. I can't imagine getting much for it anyway, as the place I sell my books off too pays only a small percentage of what Amazon charges for books (they use Amazon as a price guideline).
The good news is this same place (Rasputin's) charges at most a few bucks for large hardcovers.
Hopefully some kid new to D&D finds that book and uses it like crazy.
IIRC, I got my copy off of eBay, for a little under the cover price. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 11:48:08
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 18:46:40
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I had my boxes all set to go to the book seller, and I took the Ptolus copy out and put it back on the shelf.
I blame Wooly.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 19:06:50
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
I had my boxes all set to go to the book seller, and I took the Ptolus copy out and put it back on the shelf.
I blame Wooly.
MWAHAHAHAHA! My diabolical plan is working! 
(Now I need to go figure out what that plan is, and how this helps accomplish it... ) |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 21:50:07
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All I can say is "Ghoulworm"!
One of the nastiest nasty things ever! |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 22:13:13
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This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 22:32:48
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Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
Would that be out of the question in the future? Do you think something like that could be pushed through the powers that be? With this transition to a new edition...no time like the present eh? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 22:41:38
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Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
Mmmmm, big book of Waterdeep lore... Mmmmm </drooling Homer Simpson> |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2013 : 16:10:24
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
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Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
Would that be out of the question in the future? Do you think something like that could be pushed through the powers that be? With this transition to a new edition...no time like the present eh?
Sounds brilliant to me. "Waterdeep: City of Splendors," 500+ pages of lore, schemes, NPCs, campaign/adventure hooks, etc. . . .
Great. Now you've got me brainstorming. Thanks for that. (I *also* blame Wooly.)
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2013 : 19:00:02
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
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Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
Would that be out of the question in the future? Do you think something like that could be pushed through the powers that be? With this transition to a new edition...no time like the present eh?
Sounds brilliant to me. "Waterdeep: City of Splendors," 500+ pages of lore, schemes, NPCs, campaign/adventure hooks, etc. . . .
Great. Now you've got me brainstorming. Thanks for that. (I *also* blame Wooly.)
Cheers
Only 500? I thought we were going for something like the Ptolus book... |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2013 : 21:29:56
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My vote goes to a trilogy of books...each with 500 or so pages. 
Book one: the city
Book two: the under-city
Book three: the lands around
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2013 : 02:36:01
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
My vote goes to a trilogy of books...each with 500 or so pages.
Book one: the city
Book two: the under-city
Book three: the lands around
EDIT for itchy trigger finger
Something like the format for the original Iron Kingdoms RPG would be neat. Two books -- each around 300+ pages, and dividing the treatment of Waterdeeep between game mechanics in one book, and pure setting material in the second book.
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PaulBestwick
Seeker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Mar 2013 : 16:25:11
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Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
I'd sooner they gave you the gig for a 300+ pages for Impiltur first George. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 14 Mar 2013 : 17:31:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Only 500? I thought we were going for something like the Ptolus book...
Hey, I said 500+. That + can easily be another 500 pages. 
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2013 : 01:18:30
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Originally posted by PaulBestwick
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
I'd sooner they gave you the gig for a 300+ pages for Impiltur first George.
The "Shut Up and Take My Money" internet meme would seem appropriate here. |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2013 : 22:05:42
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Big books of this size are not the extreme outliers they used to be. Paizo has a 400-something page anniversary edition of their Rise of the Runelords adventure path, Frog God games has two mega-dungeon adventures well in excess of this.
On the city setting front we have Ptolus, and presently Green Ronin is trying to kickstart their 500+ page Freeport hardcover. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2013 : 23:41:19
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Originally posted by PaulBestwick
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
This is what they should have done for Waterdeep.
-- George Krashos
I'd sooner they gave you the gig for a 300+ pages for Impiltur first George.
Paul, I appreciate the sentiment. I'm not sure I could do something like that on my own given the time constraints in my life, but a trip to GEN-CON next year might likely galvanise me to finish off the Impiltur Lineage, a few more swords from Soargar's Legacy (although the one I posted as a Xmas present on my thread didn't raise a ripple - I might need a new "shtick") and an Impiltur timeline. I do after all have to bring gifts!
And if WotC did come calling for an Impiltur book, well I think I would just have to find that time. It would be an opportunity too good to miss.
Cheers.
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2013 : 05:51:26
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just saw this on Facebook... I've no idea how long the sale will last, so I recommend jumping all over it now -- The pdf of Ptolus, The City by the Spire is on sale for a mere $20!
That's a great deal, and it's the perfect opportunity for those not already familiar with the awesome work Monte's put into this beast, to get copies for themselves. |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2013 : 23:14:19
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| Went for the Ptolus sale yesterday. It's actually a bundle with more than just the main Ptolus book. It also contains some smaller PDFs of related products, I think the players guide, the Banewarrens dungeon, the Chaositech supplement, etc. I haven't downloaded it yet because the download client bugged out from traffic last night. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2013 : 03:31:57
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
Went for the Ptolus sale yesterday. It's actually a bundle with more than just the main Ptolus book. It also contains some smaller PDFs of related products, I think the players guide, the Banewarrens dungeon, the Chaositech supplement, etc. I haven't downloaded it yet because the download client bugged out from traffic last night.
Yeah, it took me multiple tries to get it to download.
I think the bundled stuff was on the CD that came with the Ptolus book -- because I already had most of it. I just didn't have the pdf of Ptolus, City by the Spire.
I've been wanting it for a while, but it's been rather cost-prohobitive. Until last night. |
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KacyCrawford
Acolyte
USA
41 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2013 : 17:02:59
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| Thanks for the update, I like this |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Old Man Harpell
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 01 Apr 2020 : 04:31:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's a new Kickstarter for Ptolus; the book is being redone for 5E and the Cypher System.
Ptolus: Monte Cook's City by the Spire
Argh...I would love to pitch in for this, but I've already exhausted the missus' Kickstarter good will with backing Arcana of the Ancients. I think (from this point forward) unless a 5th Edition Kickstarter has its roots in either the Realms or Birthright (the two TSR worlds she knows I love), I am going to get exactly zero sympathy. |
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