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Entromancer
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 Posted - 03 Mar 2013 : 19:15:26
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A Paladin who has, for whatever reason, grown angry with the god he serves. It could be legitimate--perhaps some Crusade-like horrors he witnesses--or it could be a childish sort of selfishness on behalf of the Paladin that drives his anger. The Paladin goes around using the god's magic without necessarily paying homage to the god.
How long would that Paladin last before the god, or another paladin, stepped in?
Here's a second question, pertaining to the Divine: Could a god bestow his or her magic upon a corrupt priest, cleric or paladin in order to test a particular follower? The test would be to determine if the chosen individual follows orthodoxy or the god's tennets.
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Kentinal
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Posted - 03 Mar 2013 : 19:36:36
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A former Paladin can live long and prosper.
Once a Paladin falls there would no longer be access to divine granted abilities. If asking how quick a deity would know Paladin has fallen, that could be instant to a day. No longer then a day before a Paladin would likely lose Divine granted powers.
As to the second question a deity clearly can grant powers to any being even if not a follower, however such event would tend to be unlikely. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Mar 2013 : 05:07:17
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Originally posted by Entromancer
A Paladin who has, for whatever reason, grown angry with the god he serves. It could be legitimate--perhaps some Crusade-like horrors he witnesses--or it could be a childish sort of selfishness on behalf of the Paladin that drives his anger. The Paladin goes around using the god's magic without necessarily paying homage to the god.
How long would that Paladin last before the god, or another paladin, stepped in?
Really, this depends on the edition. In 3E the paladin draws power from his ethos/code and strong beleif in himself and gains his power from that fashion. Taken from the v3.5 PHB: "Paladins need not devote themselves to a single deity devotion to righteousness is enough." and thus, they're not "gifted" with the powers from said God. Now on Faerūn, I believe they must serve a deity and have a Patron, but still, I think the rules of the edition stand in that their power is suffused from their code rather than some deity-graned magic.
In 4E, Paladins receive their powers from a Church or other ruling body of their faith and they must serve a deity. Taken from the 4E PHB: "As fervent crusaders in their chosen cause, paladins must choose a deity. Paladins choose a specific faith to serve, as well as an alignment. You must choose an alignment identical to the alignment of your patron deity" Further it reads: "Paladins are not granted their powers directly by their deity, but instead through various rites performed when they first become paladins. Most of these rites involve days of prayer, vigils, tests and trials, and ritual purification followed by a knighting ceremony, but each faith has its own methods. This ceremony of investiture gives a paladin the ability to wield divine powers. Once initiated, the paladin is a paladin forevermore."
So in this instance, the time another deity steps isn't even needed because his powers are his own. However the deity might send allies or help put the Paladin in situations that further his/her downward spiral in the hopes that he changes alignment to something more akin to that of the Deity.
The way I see it, if a paladin were to swerve from his course and go against his alignment (whatever that alignment may be) then perhaps another God, probably one who's ideals now fit with the paladin, might step in and shower that paladin with powers and/or opportunities that maintaining the Paladin's perception that the path (s)he's on is the righteous course.
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Originally posted by Entromancer
Here's a second question, pertaining to the Divine: Could a god bestow his or her magic upon a corrupt priest, cleric or paladin in order to test a particular follower? The test would be to determine if the chosen individual follows orthodoxy or the god's tennets.
Thanks!
Sure, I can see a deity throw obsticles in the way as to question their faith and resolve. I do think that Deities won't go out of their way to expediate anything that might cross their own Alignment though. For example the God Tyr wouldn't facilitate an instance where an orphanage burns down just to see if the Paladin will go in and attept to rescue them. Now he might know of one where it's about to happen and he might send his servent there to see what he does, because the act of the burning building cannot be changed. |
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Edited by - Diffan on 04 Mar 2013 05:09:15 |
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Longevity of this Paladin...
