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Elfinblade
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  15:08:41  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
a question, is Erevis Cale a chosen of mask? or just a priest? i havent read Twilight falling yet, so no spoilers please :P

Lord Rad
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  17:46:07  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade

a question, is Erevis Cale a chosen of mask? or just a priest? i havent read Twilight falling yet, so no spoilers please :P



Well then i cant possibly answer your question if you dont want spoilers

Read the novel, its fantastic!!

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  05:06:43  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehe,.. so i`ve heard,. i actually have it in my shelf, but i`m finishing crucible first, then its cale time. by the way, crucible did`nt quite get me going like adventure books should when dealing with this type of matter..(he killed gwydion for crying out loud!!). anyway, goodnight :D
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Lina
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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 :  04:13:50  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well to answer your question without me telling you the answer, try reading the Halls of Stormweather (Sembia Series). He's mentioned in there too.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 :  10:48:36  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i have read all of the sembia books, but it is not mentioned anywhere whether he is a priest, or a chosen.
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Adrian Moonbow
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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 :  11:36:41  Show Profile  Visit Adrian Moonbow's Homepage Send Adrian Moonbow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AFAI, he starts out being not a 'priest-type'.

Otherwise: I can't answer without spoiling!

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  17:57:28  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehe..ok thanks anyway
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Nate Palm
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  19:57:33  Show Profile  Visit Nate Palm's Homepage Send Nate Palm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about picking up Twilight Falling as it seems to get high praise.From what I've been reading though the characters in it were set-up in previous novels. Could someone tell me the books I'd need to read before starting on Twilight Falling?

Brock
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CurseLord
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  20:07:04  Show Profile  Visit CurseLord's Homepage Send CurseLord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nate Palm

Could someone tell me the books I'd need to read before starting on Twilight Falling?

Brock



Halls of Stormweather has a short story that features Cale and the novel Shadow's Witness stars Cale. They are both a part of the Sembia series. Thus, I should warn you that the beginning of Twilight Falling has a major spoiler in the beginning of the book about what happens in the end of the last Sembia series book, Lord of Stormweather.
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Nate Palm
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  06:58:41  Show Profile  Visit Nate Palm's Homepage Send Nate Palm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
Halls of Stormweather has a short story that features Cale and the novel Shadow's Witness stars Cale. They are both a part of the Sembia series. Thus, I should warn you that the beginning of Twilight Falling has a major spoiler in the beginning of the book about what happens in the end of the last Sembia series book, Lord of Stormweather.



Thanks for the info, bro. So are these Sembia books a continuing story or are they each one offs?

Brock
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  08:56:55  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nate Palm

Thanks for the info, bro. So are these Sembia books a continuing story or are they each one offs?

Brock



They are independant stories but there ARE points in some which refer back to the previous novels in the series. I HIGHLY recommend that you read them in order.

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The Sage
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  09:25:41  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think reading them in order is all that important. I didn't, and I still understood everything that was happening with regards to the general 'Sembia' storyline...

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Lina
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  08:14:54  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's best to follow Sage's advice, he is a SAGE after all.

You don't have to read the Sembia Series in order of publication as each novel follows one of the main characters life's story. So they don't really follow a chronological order. It's not too difficult to piece together different events mentioned between novels.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  13:36:55  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Exactly...

It happens ocassionally with a number of FR novel series that you read. Take the Harpers books for example...it doesn't really matter if they are read in order or not, although it makes sense to leave Thornhold until last...

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Lina
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  02:42:35  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Exactly...

It happens ocassionally with a number of FR novel series that you read. Take the Harpers books for example...it doesn't really matter if they are read in order or not, although it makes sense to leave Thornhold until last...


I haven't read all the Hapers books. They're hard to find. What was the prequel to Thornhold?

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  03:25:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the more recent reprintings of Thornhold make it apart (Book IV) of the 'Songs and Swords' series by Ms. Elaine Cunningham, so I guess that would be the answer...

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  20:20:55  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the thornhold book was awesome btw ! i really wish to hear more about bronwyn, Dag zoreth and algorind.
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Adrian Moonbow
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  09:32:47  Show Profile  Visit Adrian Moonbow's Homepage Send Adrian Moonbow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
Halls of Stormweather has a short story that features Cale and the novel Shadow's Witness stars Cale. They are both a part of the Sembia series. Thus, I should warn you that the beginning of Twilight Falling has a major spoiler in the beginning of the book about what happens in the end of the last Sembia series book, Lord of Stormweather.



He also features in two shortstories in Dragon magazine, one of which about his earlier life in Westgate. I can't remember which numbers though (maybe 277 and...??? Rad? Shadow lord?)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  14:20:12  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe one of the stories Erevis is featured in is "All the Sinners Saints" in Dragon #297.
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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 13 Feb 2004 :  13:58:18  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

I believe one of the stories Erevis is featured in is "All the Sinners Saints" in Dragon #297.



The other is, "Another Name for Dawn," in Dragon 277.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 13 Feb 2004 :  15:40:21  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp
The other is, "Another Name for Dawn," in Dragon 277.



Ah, thank you. I knew there was another one, just couldn't find a reliable reference to what issue it was within.
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Adrian Moonbow
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Posted - 17 Feb 2004 :  09:13:34  Show Profile  Visit Adrian Moonbow's Homepage Send Adrian Moonbow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp
The other is, "Another Name for Dawn," in Dragon 277.



Is this the 'prequel'? The one where Cale decides to go to Sembia? I remember reading it, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 17 Feb 2004 :  13:24:35  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adrian Moonbow

quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp
The other is, "Another Name for Dawn," in Dragon 277.



Is this the 'prequel'? The one where Cale decides to go to Sembia? I remember reading it, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.



That is it.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 29 Feb 2004 :  14:52:09  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*Ahem* Shouldn't all these questions go in the Paul Kemp Questions Thread?

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