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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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 Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 12:00:01
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Hello...
I was just wondering, what the conclusion about the Srinshee, and her being or not being a chosen of Mystra/Mystryl?
I know some NDA was up and running, so what was conclusion among the sages here? Or has some new information been released?
Thanks!
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 12:11:13
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| I'd say she is not, at least not within the time of Myth Drannor; after that I'd say its possible. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 13:48:21
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The Srinshee's relationship with Mystra is probably like that of Larloch: mutual benefits with near-no-strings-attached.
I believe I brought similar question over to Ed's thread about two years ago, and, as expected, got an NDA reply. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 15:28:31
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Ed has previously said that he wanted the Srinshee " ... to be more powerful that Larloch in raw wizardly casting power. Her stats should be staggering in power ... " Thus, I'd expect her evolution as a character of "staggering power" has seen her progress through a specialised relationship with the Goddess of Magic. Whether we could easily define that as a Chosen, remains to be detailed.
Though she has, after all, had numerous roles of significant responsibility and power -- not the least of which is her previously being both a Wardnorn [of the Vault of Ages] and a Lorenorn [for the armathors and Court Magi], which are specialised types of baelnorn, as noted in Cormanthyr. Being a Chosen could be just another "notch" on her belt, so to speak. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 01:13:25
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Originally posted by The Sage
Ed has previously said that he wanted the Srinshee " ... to be more powerful that Larloch in raw wizardly casting power. Her stats should be staggering in power ... " Thus, I'd expect her evolution as a character of "staggering power" has seen her progress through a specialised relationship with the Goddess of Magic. Whether we could easily define that as a Chosen, remains to be detailed.
Though she has, after all, had numerous roles of significant responsibility and power -- not the least of which is her previously being both a Wardnorn [of the Vault of Ages] and a Lorenorn [for the armathors and Court Magi], which are specialised types of baelnorn, as noted in Cormanthyr. Being a Chosen could be just another "notch" on her belt, so to speak.
If Larloch is the "don't go there" guy, and she is even more powerful thats like... DAMN!!!
I know this has been talked about before, but it gets me every time!
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 01:50:30
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| I swear I read somewhere in these halls as the Srinshee being quoted as a 54th level caster if that helps. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 02:33:00
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Originally posted by Eilserus
I swear I read somewhere in these halls as the Srinshee being quoted as a 54th level caster if that helps.
Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9]. |
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Euranna
Learned Scribe
USA
219 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 03:55:23
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I cannot remember which story/novel it was, and Srinshee was able to move silverfire through herself (from El and Dove to The Simbul) but did not seem to possess any herself.
I am sorry I cannot remember the story..I believe time wise, it was occuring the same time of The Last Mythal. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 10:27:46
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Eilserus
I swear I read somewhere in these halls as the Srinshee being quoted as a 54th level caster if that helps.
Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Personally... I would, were I to make a writeup, make her level 20 Wizard, level 10 Olin Gisir, Level 5 Archmage, level 10 Elven High Mage and level 10 Incantatrix... That would make her level 55, but I think that would be fine... I would probably also give her a lot more feats than what a "normal" level 55 would have. A lot more. And I think I would make her Chosen of The Seldarine!
DOnt know if that ever would do her justice though!!! |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 01 Feb 2013 : 11:32:33
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Originally posted by Euranna
I cannot remember which story/novel it was, and Srinshee was able to move silverfire through herself (from El and Dove to The Simbul) but did not seem to possess any herself.
I am sorry I cannot remember the story..I believe time wise, it was occuring the same time of The Last Mythal.
I believe you are talking about the short story Tears so White by Ed Greenwood in the Realms of the Elves anthology. |
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Euranna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 01:08:53
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| That is it! Thank you Thauranil. :) |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 07:37:16
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She's an NPC that can potentially interact with a PC party, not a hobgoblin with 5 hp. Why does she need stats at all? There is a big difference between plot/story elements in a game, and monsters to roll dice against. The latter need stats. The former do not.
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 13:53:25
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Originally posted by Euranna
That is it! Thank you Thauranil. :)
No problem . Always happy to help a lady |
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
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Posted - 03 Feb 2013 : 18:27:29
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As for her way of interacting with a party...
What is her personality like in 1375DR? The Srinshee she seems very secretive. What novel scene or personality type is an example for her best portrayal if I want to depict her right? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 03 Feb 2013 : 19:10:18
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| I'm only aware of the Srinshee from 2E Ancient Empires (Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves). To my mind she's sort of a secluded Larloch-like character whose lofty unknowable machinations might perhaps tangentially affect the players but who could never be approached or interact with them directly. |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2013 : 20:49:53
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| As far as what scenes from books to refer to, she is mostly in Elminster in Myth Drannor. She also makes an appearance in the Prologue of The Last Mythal, several cool appearances in the memory scenes of Elminster In Hell, and I'm pretty sure she was in Ed's short sorry in Realms of the Elves. |
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jerrod
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Jul 2013 : 19:41:19
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| In elminster in hell,the srinshee states that she was "rode by"more gods than just mystra. Considering the fact that like amlaruil she has risen above the racial hangups and limitations...i believe she would be a chosen of the seldarine or both mystra and the seldarine |
I haven't been here in years but I used to be DARKFLAME MILLITHOR(DROW ARCHMAGE of wildmagic |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 12 Jul 2013 : 20:03:06
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Mystra has been known to 'share' Chosen status with other deities (even a drow deity). In fact, of all of FR's gods, she seems the most likely to bestow special status upon another deity's 'Chosen' ones.
Come to think of it, the whole 'Harper thing' is a group of deities lending their support to an organization (and since nearly all of Mystra's Chosen are Harpers, those Chosen then have way more then just Mystra 'in their corner').
Makes me think that none of Mystra's Chosen are 'Mystra only', in one way or another (and now we are back to what Ed has always said - that most everyone in Faerūn pays lip service to all the gods).
I just realized something - I used to think that Eliminster was the only mortal to directly interact with Ao (aside from the ToT nonsense), but in hindsight, Chosen = Exarch = Demipower, so all of the Chosen are technically 'demigods' (and Elminster is even referred to as such in at least one early Kara-Tur module), and therefor fall inside the purview of Ao's own portfolio - 'The Gods'. He isn't breaking any of his own rules at all by talking to them. |
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jerrod
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Jul 2013 : 20:07:56
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| In elminster in hell,the srinshee states that she was "rode by"more gods than just mystra. Considering the fact that like amlaruil she has risen above the racial hangups and limitations...i believe she would be a chosen of the seldarine or both mystra and the seldarine |
I haven't been here in years but I used to be DARKFLAME MILLITHOR(DROW ARCHMAGE of wildmagic |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2013 : 20:23:05
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| Does anyone know what powers a chosen of the seldarine would have? |
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