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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 May 2004 :  15:43:49  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not much so far. I guess we have to wait for next week for anything "new."

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The Sage
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I certainly hope so. Although, aside from the occassional monster, polymorphing doesn't usually play a big part in most of my campaigns (excluding RL for obvious reasons ). Most of my players shy away from using both of the polymorph spells...it's curious...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 18 May 2004 :  16:29:34  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rules of the Game
Polymorphing (Part Two)
By Skip Williams

is now up: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040518a
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 18 May 2004 :  20:41:07  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I certainly hope so. Although, aside from the occassional monster, polymorphing doesn't usually play a big part in most of my campaigns (excluding RL for obvious reasons ). Most of my players shy away from using both of the polymorph spells...it's curious...
Polymorphing, while extremely rewarding, requires a lot of work from the player him/herself (or DM for that matter...) Therefore, most people take the easiest way, which is a fireball or an ice storm-type spell...

Here's an example of one of my players "taking the long way home" and exploring the possibilities of Polymorphing:

He's a Fire Genasi cleric, and at the beginning of large battles, he asks the mage to polymorph him into a troll (and delays his action until the mage is done). In the same round, he casts Divine Power, and finally, Righteous Might in the second round.

Result:
> Huge-sized Troll wielding a Large flaming burst greatsword (3d6 + 20 + 1d6[fire] --> 19-20/x2 + 1d10[fire] on crits);
> 3 greatsword attacks per round totalling an average of 111dmg if they all hit;
> if he gets disarmed, 4 claw attacks per round + rend, totalling 110dmg per round if they all hit;
> Size: Huge (15' tall, 15'face, 15' reach); 4800 lbs
> Str: 37 (+13) [23 troll + 6 enhancement (divine power) + 8 size (RM)]
> Dex: 14 (+2)
> Con: 27 (+8) [23 troll + 4 size (righteous might)]
> Normal HP: 81 --> New HP: 169 [+7/level (+77) because of added Con; +1 temp/level (+11) from Divine Power]
> AC 25 (one less than his regual AC of 26: he gains a lot of natural armor, but loses his full plate as it gets 'melded' into his troll shape when he polymorphs)

As you can see, polymorphing is not something you want to do at the table for the first time, as you'll slow the game to a crawl. However, players can select a "form of choice", stat it out, and submit to the DM ahead of time for approval. It's a bit of work for the player and DM, but it allows for really memorable times and not the usual spell-slinging fest...

Edited by - Purple Dragon Knight on 18 May 2004 20:50:51
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Sachiel
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Posted - 19 May 2004 :  03:57:32  Show Profile  Visit Sachiel's Homepage Send Sachiel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm interested in hearing about whether anyone here who has used these articles, has found them useful in anyway?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  12:54:59  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rules of the Game Polymorphing (Part Three) is now up.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  13:23:35  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rules of the Game: Polymorphing (Part Four) is now available.
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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  12:58:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, I'm starting to think that the lack of comments on these articles is a clear representation that there are very few players/DM who actually find them useful...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  15:33:12  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Heh, I'm starting to think that the lack of comments on these articles is a clear representation that there are very few players/DM who actually find them useful...




What? Wizards is making a point of giving us material that no one needs or wants? Nay, they'd never do that!

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  15:42:19  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What? Wizards is making a point of giving us material that no one needs or wants? Nay, they'd never do that!



But...it's so crunchy.....how could people not be interested.
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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  15:44:59  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is too true . Although, this whole idea of "Rules of the Game" could be better utilised if they actually addressed some of the gamer issues that regularly pop up as topics on the Message Boards at WotC.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  16:42:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

That is too true . Although, this whole idea of "Rules of the Game" could be better utilised if they actually addressed some of the gamer issues that regularly pop up as topics on the Message Boards at WotC.




Okay, so let me get this straight... You want them to both listen to us and actually give us something we can use? Tymora's Teacups, man, are you daft?!?


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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  16:57:28  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Okay, so let me get this straight... You want them to both listen to us and actually give us something we can use? Tymora's Teacups, man, are you daft?!?




So I shouldn't post any more news about new articles for this column? I fear that only Eberron can save this column now.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  17:48:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Okay, so let me get this straight... You want them to both listen to us and actually give us something we can use? Tymora's Teacups, man, are you daft?!?




So I shouldn't post any more news about new articles for this column? I fear that only Eberron can save this column now.



I don't know that I'd go so far as to say that... I just know that I've seen no use for that series. I can only speak for myself, though.

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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Jun 2004 :  10:08:00  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Okay, so let me get this straight... You want them to both listen to us and actually give us something we can use? Tymora's Teacups, man, are you daft?!?




So I shouldn't post any more news about new articles for this column? I fear that only Eberron can save this column now.

I wouldn't say that. Afterall, not all of the players and DMs who visit here at Candlekeep are as experienced as some others with the 3e rules...

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Sarta
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Posted - 04 Jun 2004 :  10:17:23  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some of the topics have been useful... others not so much (metric conversion for example). It certainly doesn't hurt to be aware of new subjects.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 10 Jun 2004 :  02:47:50  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have a new subject All About Movement (Part One)
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 10 Jun 2004 :  11:10:18  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have any thoughts on this new sub-series so far?

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Sarta
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Posted - 10 Jun 2004 :  19:21:21  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It reads like a dictionary. I think he's setting things up for his follow-up article, which will be interesting to read.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 19 Jun 2004 :  04:53:28  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All About Movement (Part II) is now up.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 22 Jun 2004 :  06:08:30  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All About Movement (Part III) is now up. WOTC is really moving this column along fast.
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Arivia
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Posted - 22 Jun 2004 :  07:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, that is really fast. A week is fast, but three days...
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 22 Jun 2004 :  13:57:32  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Wow, that is really fast. A week is fast, but three days...



Yeah, I thought you had to be an article about a new campaign world to get that fast treatment.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 :  19:09:17  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All About Movement (Part IV) is now up.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Jul 2004 :  17:00:16  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All About Movement (Part Five) is now up.

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 06 Jul 2004 17:03:41
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 13 Jul 2004 :  17:07:13  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All About Movement Part VI is now available.
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Arivia
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Posted - 13 Jul 2004 :  17:16:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hm, maybe the lack of feedback on these last few articles should tell us something-I know I haven't been looking at them.
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