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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
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 Posted - 27 Nov 2012 : 02:01:09
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Hi! I'm playing an Oghma priest in a new campaign we started this week. I have in mind something like a medieval scientist. Often involving himself with the study of celestial objects or natural phenomenons. My adventuring reason is to find some scrolls and books to add to my hometown's oghma church/library's archive colletion. Anyone else ever played an Oghma priest? Any tips and ideas?
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2012 : 04:11:45
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| Oghma priests are great wrestlers. Or as they say where I'm from, "rasslers" |
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2012 : 13:46:33
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1607 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2012 : 13:58:37
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Originally posted by farinal
Wrestlers?
Yes, WalkerNinja is right. In 2e Faiths & Avatars it is said that there are basically two kinds of Oghma priests, cloystered and adventurers. They make some money working as scribes (but then, in 2e not everyone knows to read and write). In the description of the Lorekeeper specialty priests, it is said that although they can use weapons, they are specialized in wrestling combat. Maybe they practice like shaolin monks, to defend themselves when they are in pilgrimage, and to keep healthy in spite of spending a lot of time in front of tomes. 
Edit: Check the entry http://nj-pbem.com/data/Gods/humangods/Oghma.htm, it brings the information of Faiths & Avatars about Oghma. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2012 : 03:19:23
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Also, IIRC, Oghma is "The Binder" not because he binds books but because he binds demons. I thought that there were always strong connections between this and his followers proclivity for wrestling. Throw a Balor in a metaphysical Hammerlock as it were.
Now that I get to thinking about all this, playing a demon hunting lucha libre dedicated to Oghma sounds like fun. |
*** A Forgotten Realms Addict since 1990 ***
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Nov 2012 : 04:14:38
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Originally posted by WalkerNinja
Now that I get to thinking about all this, playing a demon hunting lucha libre dedicated to Oghma sounds like fun.
Cape with tassles, or no cape with tassles?
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2012 : 04:35:34
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| It's a magic cape, of course it will have tassels. |
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2012 : 21:48:13
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 00:14:36
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Originally posted by MrHedgehog
How do you know he is the Binder for binding demons? I have never heard that before.
Likewise, me neither.
He's actually based off the Finnish god who goes by the same name. (or was he Celtic? Can't remember) |
Edited by - Razz on 29 Nov 2012 00:15:05 |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 00:29:25
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1e Advanced Dungeons and Dragons:
"...is known as the Binder for his ability to successfully force demons and devils into a special prison..."
Page 29, Deities and Demi-Gods (1980) |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 04:18:04
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Originally posted by Razz
quote:
Originally posted by MrHedgehog
How do you know he is the Binder for binding demons? I have never heard that before.
Likewise, me neither.
He's actually based off the Finnish god who goes by the same name. (or was he Celtic? Can't remember)
Search appears to indicate more likely Celtic, though not the same deity. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 04:36:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
1e Advanced Dungeons and Dragons:
"...is known as the Binder for his ability to successfully force demons and devils into a special prison..."
Page 29, Deities and Demi-Gods (1980)
Hmm, does that mean he sends them to the special Hell?  |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4255 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 04:37:07
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| Oghma is Celtic originally...and so he would also be of that origin in the Forgotten Realms. Just as Tyr was an "invader god"...Oghma the Binder is most likely an interloper deity. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 05:01:38
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| In "The Cleric Quintet", Oghman priests were described as wearing white tunics and trousers, with black and gold vests, brown cloaks, and silver scroll necklace ornaments. |
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vorpalanvil
Seeker
USA
90 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 07:15:13
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| Jeez BEAST, did you memorize every realms book? I spent my time memorizing the Hobbit, so i can complain about it in the theater next month! |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 14:30:01
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
1e Advanced Dungeons and Dragons:
"...is known as the Binder for his ability to successfully force demons and devils into a special prison..."
Page 29, Deities and Demi-Gods (1980)
One of those strange things, this is the right God and yet the wrong God. In the Realms I don't think he is known for binding fiends. And yet I love this idea.
Two role-playing tips for you. One have your character always carrying a book around.
Two go to the local book store and buy a writing journal. Anytime your character casts a spell hold the book up in the air. Anytime someone has a good idea write the idea down and say ,”For Oghma!” or something along those lines.
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 29 Nov 2012 : 15:26:23
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Originally posted by vorpalanvil
Jeez BEAST, did you memorize every realms book?
Haha. Nah, but I did vaguely remember reading these things in "TCQ" years ago. I took notes on Cadderly and his associates, since they were the real stars of that series, but not the Oghmans, so I had to go back and double-check a few passages.
Also, since Oghma is god of knowledge, while Deneir is god of art, there seems to have been a little bit of (mostly good-natured) ribbing between the two gods' adherents in "TCQ". Oghmans seem to be a little haughtier, since they focus on what has actually been demonstrated and proven (what is known); meanwhile, Deneirans come across as more open-minded and relativistic, since they pursue the arts (what is felt). Think Spock vs. Bones, or Sheldon vs. Penny. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 04:34:32
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From the "Old Grey Box":
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OGHMA (OGG-mah)
The Binder
God of Knowledge, Invention, Patron of Bards N
Greater Power Concordant Opposition
Symbol: A partially unrolled scroll
NOTES: Oghma of the Forgotten Realms is the same being as the Oghma of the Celtic mythos in L&L, save for the lack in the Forgotten Realms of true names other than those provided for in the spell of the same name. Oghma appears in the realms as an old burly man with a black beard streaked with white, and carries a yarting of white snowwood on a thong across his back.
So he is not only identical...he IS Oghma of Celtic Lore.  |
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