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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 05:55:09
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ive seen mentions of Black Lotus in the FR. there is a guy in BG i think in the carnival that mentions it. i know its some kind of drug but does any1 know anything about it?
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Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 07:09:24
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Well there's a Black Lotus toxin in the RL setting...which is the only one I can remember at the moment, although I doubt it is the one you are talking about...
I'll check my books.
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 15:29:56
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| I don't know, it was in the Copper Coronet in BG II, in a hidden room. Also at the city gates with a traveling "merchant" (shadow thief). |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 16:05:53
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| References to 'Black Lotus' abound in the Baldur's Gate games, both I and II. It can obviously be gathered that 'Black Lotus' is a narcotic, but as to whether or not any canon Forgotten Realms sources regarding said narcotic exist...I'll get back to you. As for the nature of 'Black Lotus', the concept of it being similar to cannabis makes sense, particularly for the time period the Realms generally corolate to (If I remember correctly cocaine and heroin, as well as most other drugs, did not exist as we know them today. Most opiates and cocaine did not become big until some what later in history, as both heroin and cocaine require a certain level of processessing to produce, where as cannabiss does not.), though I get the distinct impression the various references to said drug were something of a joke on the part of the game designers. |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 17:49:20
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| Well, it might be a reference to this.(Warning: That link may resize your browser window.) |
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The Sharpblade of Amn
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 18:42:32
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perhaps it does have to do with that card...
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Maecenus of Westgate
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 18:45:07
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| I think the Black Lotus is an inversion of the typical Lotus Flower that was sacred to the ancient Egyptians. The Lotus that was revered by the people of this time was a bright white water plant or water lilly which bloomed at dusk. The Egyptians used the Lotus to symbolize the sun and possibly birth...therefore, a Black Lotus would symbolize...death? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 : 20:53:58
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| Possibly, or maybe evil of some sort...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 00:32:35
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
I don't know, it was in the Copper Coronet in BG II, in a hidden room. Also at the city gates with a traveling "merchant" (shadow thief).
ok i remember the merchant at the city gates now that u mention it. but i dont remember the guy in the Copper Coronet...where is this 'hidden room'? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 01:20:54
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| when you are going to where they house the gladiators, there are two hidden rooms. One leads to a sewer, and another has a small room where they talk about black lotus. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 01:34:42
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| the 1 with all the pillows on the floor? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 06:57:20
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| Yup, it surely is that card... Baldur's Gate is Wizards of the Coast, right? And Magic the Gathering is too, so it looks like Wizards is doing a bit of advertising for themselves.... Funny that BG's never mentioned in Magic though. |
If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 19:33:24
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| They r 2 separate things though, both by the same company, but supposed 2 be completely separate, not intersecting at all |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 19:46:49
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| And yes, it is the room with pillows on the floor in BG 2. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 00:07:21
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| ah, i remember the room with the pillows, just not the reference 2 black lotus |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 00:15:31
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| Thats strange, I can clearly remember the reference. As said by the guy in the chair. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 05:52:43
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"perhaps it is because I found great pleasure in casting a memory charm upon him" lee quickly addresses to The Shadowlord in the silent drow hand language...
I think it is very clever of Wizards to link the two games together in this abnormally subtle way....  |
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What exactly is Black Lotus?
