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Xar Zarath
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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  02:55:15  Show Profile Send Xar Zarath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone ever thought of Trobriand as a Cyberman from Doctor Who, I mean there are those who speculate Halaster is the Doctor, and since the Metal Mage is specialized in "metalmancy" he sure could have transformed himself...

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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  03:47:24  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Not familiar with him as I don't watch Doctor Who. Google gave me this image. It looks more like the prototype of Iron-Man.

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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  04:21:56  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Not familiar with him as I don't watch Doctor Who. Google gave me this image. It looks more like the prototype of Iron-Man.

They're the Cybermen of the post-2005 relaunch of Doctor Who.

I think the appearance of the Cybermen from the late 60's-era Who [specifically, 'Tomb of the Cybermen'] are more appropriately able to reflect the kind of "metal men" Trobriand might be responsible for crafting in the Realms.

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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  06:10:46  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sound's like the metal-mage is more a focus than a physical description. Though I suppose he could be a metal-mage in the same sense as this guy:

http://images.dvds-home.com/Upload/uploadfiles/fullmetal_alchemist_1.jpg

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(They didn't call him Full Metal for nothin'...)

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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  06:27:44  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Nah. Trobriand creates all metal devices he puts to use. Edward's metallic arm was created by Winry.

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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  22:39:29  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True, but Ed can also create just about anything with his alchemy, and has been known to alchemically modify his metal arm into various weapons or tools on occasion. Plus, he got that title from the State Alchemists both as a nod to his metal limbs, and to his facility with metal-based transmutations, which is considerable (like Mustang is with fire). And maybe as a joke about his brother, as well...

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Edward is really good at blasting-type of alchemy/magic. On the other hand, creating a metallic arm that is connected to your nerves so it moves at your own will, requires subtlety and precision that only the most skilled of artificers possess, and Edward is hardly that. Besides, there are types of metal that he cannot transmute, like that one used by the soldiers at the Northern Wall of Briggs.

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Alystra Illianniis
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True, but I also recall that he was able to fix a busted radio so well that it was like new, in one of the early episodes. He's also transmuted complex weapons out of solid ground, and even changed mechanical objects into guns, or vice-versa. That takes a great deal of skill. And to transmute his metal arm into a weapon and back again, numerous times, shows that he has exactly the kind of subtlety and precision you mentioned. Then again, so did putting Alphonse into that armor, and attempting the transmutation to bring back their mother that lost them their parts in the first place. He's also the only alchemist able to do any of those things without a circle. I'd say he's a very versitile metal-mage

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Xar Zarath
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Posted - 22 Nov 2012 :  03:30:32  Show Profile Send Xar Zarath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Considering that metal lasts much more longer than flesh, I wonder why Murial has not approached Trobriand with some design to improve his scorpion body. If Murial wants to be the best, metal parts would seem better than simply grafting himself onto creatures.

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Posted - 22 Nov 2012 :  15:17:25  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

True, but I also recall that he was able to fix a busted radio so well that it was like new, in one of the early episodes.
Perhaps. But that doesn't involve stitching organs of a living person and connecting it to a metallic device.

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He's also the only alchemist able to do any of those things without a circle. I'd say he's a very versitile metal-mage.
He was only able to do that because he's seen the Gate of Truth, just like his teacher.

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Posted - 22 Nov 2012 :  15:29:45  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Xar Zarath

Considering that metal lasts much more longer than flesh, I wonder why Murial has not approached Trobriand with some design to improve his scorpion body. If Murial wants to be the best, metal parts would seem better than simply grafting himself onto creatures.
Pride, most likely. They're both apprentices, meaning of equal status. Plus, they're hardly friends.

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Xar Zarath
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Posted - 05 Jan 2013 :  14:31:18  Show Profile Send Xar Zarath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When you think about it, Trobriand could be grafting metal onto his apprentices to make them more stronger/durable etc, but could also have found a way to control them, placing spells on the metal to bind their minds to him.

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Dennis
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Posted - 16 Feb 2013 :  14:52:10  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Has Trobriand ever made adult dragon-size war constructs? If not to actually use them in war himself, or sell them to the highest bidder, at least to test his ingenuity?

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