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Garen Thal
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  14:56:03  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!

The Red Walker
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  15:20:49  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!



Oh man...your making it harder everyday not to subscribe....could be at a tipping point

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  15:30:12  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!



Oh man...your making it harder everyday not to subscribe....could be at a tipping point
Would the promise of a malaugrym article later this month do it for you? What about an article (and an adventure!) dealing with the Xanathar of Waterdeep? An Eye on the Realms article by Ed? Tons of back-issue stuff you can peek at at the same time? It's all there for you. Just tell 'em I sent you.

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  15:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is great stuff, Brian! Well done.

It also sparks neat ideas to interface with my work. We'll have to chat about that one of these days...

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  15:59:07  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You beat me to it Brian.

So, do NDAs prevent you from revealing whether or not you've written up any more History Check articles? I really like that this is going to be a series and not a one-off.

Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver).
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Garen Thal
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USA
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  16:04:23  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

You beat me to it Brian.

So, do NDAs prevent you from revealing whether or not you've written up any more History Check articles? I really like that this is going to be a series and not a one-off.
I can safely say that no, I don't have any History Check articles currently in the pipeline. I do have ideas for one or two to pitch during the next submission cycle, but I'd be curious know what subjects fans here at the 'keep would like to see explored in this fashion and format.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist

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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  18:03:04  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!



Wish I could see it. BTW, if you subscribe for a month, do you get access to all the old issues?

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  18:08:24  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!



Wish I could see it. BTW, if you subscribe for a month, do you get access to all the old issues?
I believe that's the case. I've subscribed for a long time, but as far as I know, a current subscriber has access to all DDI content, past and present.
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

USA
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 :  18:13:20  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great job, Brian!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 :  02:33:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!

I'm so tempted to drop this on my tabletop... just to put the fear of Manshoon back into the players sitting around my table tonight!

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Hawkins
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Posted - 11 Sep 2012 :  15:57:39  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On the topic of DDI subscriptions, can you access and download articles from all past issues with one month's subscription? I don't mean to sound cheap, but I cannot afford a monthly subscription, but I hate missing out on Realmslore. But I have been considering doing a one-month-a-year thing and downloading all that I have missed.

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He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
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My game design work:
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 11 Sep 2012 :  16:36:33  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

On the topic of DDI subscriptions, can you access and download articles from all past issues with one month's subscription?
I think so, yes.
quote:
I don't mean to sound cheap, but I cannot afford a monthly subscription, but I hate missing out on Realmslore. But I have been considering doing a one-month-a-year thing and downloading all that I have missed.
I don't mean to sound crass, and I certainly won't tell anyone how to spend their money, but the surest way to get WotC to produce less Realmslore is to give them the impression that it's an occasional expenditure for their consumers, rather than a monthly thing. If the fanbase is not committed to seeing (and paying for) Realms material, it's not likely to be produced at the rate (or in the form) they want.

That said, you probably should be able to do exactly what you're planning. If you do, make sure you let us know what you think!
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Hawkins
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Posted - 11 Sep 2012 :  22:32:28  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the other option that they have not seemed inclined to implement is a pay-per-article availability (I think that Wooly has mentioned this as well in the past). I would actually rather do that than a one-month-per-year method. That way I would just be paying for what I actually wanted. I really appreciate all the work you, the brothers James, and Erik (as well as plenty that I am sure I am missing) have been doing for the Realms via DDI. It just is not in the budget. I also wish that I could buy Pathfinder rules books for the cover price in my LFGS. But that is not in the budget either. So I buy them at a discount on Amazon. Please don't take what I said above as undervaluing the Realms. I really wish that I could buy everything I want whenever I want.

Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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George Krashos
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Australia
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Posted - 12 Sep 2012 :  01:24:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, I kind of wish that WotC allowed you to pay per article. That way they'd actually be able to measure interest in the various campaign settings and have some hard data as to which is the most popular and what type of articles "sell more" than others. Oh, and I'd be able to get just the FR content without any of that other icky stuff.

-- George Krashos



"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 12 Sep 2012 01:26:37
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Seravin
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Posted - 12 Sep 2012 :  02:11:17  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Set a decent price point and pay per article would be great. Elaine mentioned a sweet spot for ebooks, would $2/an article be fair I wonder?

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 12 Sep 2012 :  04:07:21  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

You know, I kind of wish that WotC allowed you to pay per article. That way they'd actually be able to measure interest in the various campaign settings and have some hard data as to which is the most popular and what type of articles "sell more" than others. Oh, and I'd be able to get just the FR content without any of that other icky stuff.

-- George Krashos






Bingo! If I could just subscribe for FR content for a fair % of the current fee....I would sign up tomorrow....I have no interest in as George would say "other icky stuff"and don't really have an interest in subsidizing it by paying full freight.

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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Sep 2012 :  04:31:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

You know, I kind of wish that WotC allowed you to pay per article. That way they'd actually be able to measure interest in the various campaign settings and have some hard data as to which is the most popular and what type of articles "sell more" than others. Oh, and I'd be able to get just the FR content without any of that other icky stuff.

-- George Krashos






Bingo! If I could just subscribe for FR content for a fair % of the current fee....I would sign up tomorrow....I have no interest in as George would say "other icky stuff"and don't really have an interest in subsidizing it by paying full freight.



That's been my stance for years. Let me pay for what I want, and don't make me pay for stuff I don't want. The all-or-nothing stance of the DDI has meant they get nothing from me.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2012 :  04:41:03  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, I think they'd make far more with a 'buck an article' rate then with the subscription, but what do I know?

I think the subscription would be better served if it became the more frugal option (which it would, when folks found themselves buying 10+ articles per month).

Oh, and a 'profit sharing' model, so they have no up-front costs (and good authors get rewarded for producing more popular material). If every article cost about a dollar, and 50¢ went to WotC and 50¢ went to the author, WotC would have absolutely no reason to have to limit the number of articles produced, or 'shop around for the best material' (or most useful, which is highly subjective). A profit sharing models is self-policing in that manner (not to mention an insanely good way to judge what sells and what doesn't, as GK pointed out).

Can you imagine the amazing, non-stop lore we would get if they 'unleashed' guys like Erik Boyb, George Krashos, Steven Schend, Tom Costa, the James brothers, Erik DeBie & Brian Cortijo, etc, etc...? Let them do whatever they want, and let US decide how much of it we want! All WotC would have to do is sit back and count their money (and they'd probably have to hire more people to do that).

At that point, subscribing becomes the better option.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 12 Sep 2012 04:43:21
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