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The Red Walker
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 Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 06:23:52
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Godborn is noe The Godborn, second of the six novels of the Sundering. Hate to wait even longer but it will be worth it. Paul also said the artwork for the cover is unreal!
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 09:00:25
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From blackgate.com:
Greenwood announces the 6 authors of a new series of stories that will right the realms, called The Sundering:
First book, The Companions, will be by R.A. Salvatore
Paul S. Kemp will write the second book, The Godborn
The Adversary by Erin M. Evans
The Reaver by Richard Lee Byers
The Sentinel by Troy Denning
The Herald by Ed Greenwood
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As I understand, The Godborn is still part of the Cycle of Night trilogy. How about the others in the sextet above? Are they part of individual series or stand-alone for The Sundering?
And oh! I'm happy to see Troy Denning back to writing FR novels! |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 12:18:15
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It will indeed to be good to read a Troy Denning FR novel, i have read all his stuff in Stars Wars and really enjoyed it.
Now if only they would stop delaying this stuff and release it already. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 14:08:10
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Originally posted by Dennis
From blackgate.com:
Greenwood announces the 6 authors of a new series of stories that will right the realms, called The Sundering:
First book, The Companions, will be by R.A. Salvatore
Paul S. Kemp will write the second book, The Godborn
The Adversary by Erin M. Evans
The Reaver by Richard Lee Byers
The Sentinel by Troy Denning
The Herald by Ed Greenwood
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As I understand, The Godborn is still part of the Cycle of Night trilogy. How about the others in the sextet above? Are they part of individual series or stand-alone for The Sundering?
And oh! I'm happy to see Troy Denning back to writing FR novels!
Paul was there (what a nice guy!) and said he was asked if the Sundering was something he wanted to participate in....he said "Hell Yeah!", he told us that he believed that the story he was already telling in Godborn fit into the Sundering very well. He then apologized for the further delay and told us that the cover art was unreal. He seemed VERY happy with how it is working out for his novel...so thats a great thing.
Troy Denning was there as well. Very gracious and appreciative(not that all the authors are not, because they are!) and seemd happy to be working in the realms again. I should have tried to get at least a character of something out of him, but I was too busy reviewing all his realms books in my head! |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 18:40:52
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 19:11:54
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While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest. I also hope that this series flows more smoothly than the Time of Troubles novels (the first two which turned me off of reading anything else by Scott Ciencin, though I loved Troy's [Waterdeep]). |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 19:33:53
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Originally posted by Hawkins
While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest.
I did see that on the FR Wiki, for whatever number of copper pieces that's worth. I can kinda live with it, though. I'd simply have the original Sundering something Elven cultures refer to as the First Sundering and then there will be the (all other Cultures) Great Sundering and so forth.
Although, this did spark an idea. I believe I recall some scribes talking about the Sundering that created Evermeet straining the Weave and bringing a part of the realm of the fey to Faerūn? If so, could this "Great Sundering" simply be a long-term effect of the original Sundering? |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 20:00:57
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Originally posted by Delwa
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Originally posted by Hawkins
While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest.
I did see that on the FR Wiki, for whatever number of copper pieces that's worth. I can kinda live with it, though. I'd simply have the original Sundering something Elven cultures refer to as the First Sundering and then there will be the (all other Cultures) Great Sundering and so forth.
Although, this did spark an idea. I believe I recall some scribes talking about the Sundering that created Evermeet straining the Weave and bringing a part of the realm of the fey to Faerūn? If so, could this "Great Sundering" simply be a long-term effect of the original Sundering?
Well this "new" thing is called. THE Sundering.... So is it big enough it eclipses the original or is it more likey its a finish of the first? Or at least related in some way? By th way that was my pure conjecture.
Ed said " we were well aware there was already an event in the past named the Sundering" and smiled .... But he always smiles |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 20:18:20
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Well this "new" thing is called. THE Sundering.... So is it big enough it eclipses the original or is it more likey its a finish of the first? Or at least related in some way? By th way that was my pure conjecture.
Ed said " we were well aware there was already an event in the past named the Sundering" and smiled .... But he always smiles
Never trust a smiling DM. This could be highly intriguing, or just interesting, depending on the age of my ferrety curiosity. 
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Firestorm
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 20:46:59
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Godborn is noe The Godborn, second of the six novels of the Sundering. Hate to wait even longer but it will be worth it. Paul also said the artwork for the cover is unreal!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 21:24:34
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Delwa
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Originally posted by Hawkins
While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest.
I did see that on the FR Wiki, for whatever number of copper pieces that's worth. I can kinda live with it, though. I'd simply have the original Sundering something Elven cultures refer to as the First Sundering and then there will be the (all other Cultures) Great Sundering and so forth.
Although, this did spark an idea. I believe I recall some scribes talking about the Sundering that created Evermeet straining the Weave and bringing a part of the realm of the fey to Faerūn? If so, could this "Great Sundering" simply be a long-term effect of the original Sundering?
Well this "new" thing is called. THE Sundering.... So is it big enough it eclipses the original or is it more likey its a finish of the first? Or at least related in some way? By th way that was my pure conjecture.
Ed said " we were well aware there was already an event in the past named the Sundering" and smiled .... But he always smiles
Makes it sound, to me, as if this "new" Sundering is either a ripple or a delayed effect of the first. |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 21:51:09
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Originally posted by Wooly RupertMakes it sound, to me, as if this "new" Sundering is either a ripple or a delayed effect of the first.
I do recall reading something about that Sundering that created Evermeet reaching both backwards and forwards in time because it was such a powerful ritual of High Magic.
Of course with some of the speculation about what this could be I wonder if Shar's obvious involvement since Kemp's book will be in the series might lead us to some answers about the alternate Roll of Years her followers had leading up to the Spellplague (was in Grand History of the Realms). |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:28:53
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Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:34:37
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Originally posted by Dennis
Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.
I'm not going to,try and change your mind, because I just don't know enough.
But what I do know is that Paul could have wrote a new novel for the Sundering series and left Godborn alone. But he said in hashing out the Sundering he saw opportunities to make an even better novel utilizing it with Godborn. And he seemed to indicate that it would now be a "bigger" book. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:36:34
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Delwa
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Originally posted by Hawkins
While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest.
I did see that on the FR Wiki, for whatever number of copper pieces that's worth. I can kinda live with it, though. I'd simply have the original Sundering something Elven cultures refer to as the First Sundering and then there will be the (all other Cultures) Great Sundering and so forth.
Although, this did spark an idea. I believe I recall some scribes talking about the Sundering that created Evermeet straining the Weave and bringing a part of the realm of the fey to Faerūn? If so, could this "Great Sundering" simply be a long-term effect of the original Sundering?
Well this "new" thing is called. THE Sundering.... So is it big enough it eclipses the original or is it more likey its a finish of the first? Or at least related in some way? By th way that was my pure conjecture.
Ed said " we were well aware there was already an event in the past named the Sundering" and smiled .... But he always smiles
Makes it sound, to me, as if this "new" Sundering is either a ripple or a delayed effect of the first.
That was my immediate thought last night when I heard it. |
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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:39:35
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Sish....The good news would have been,Godborn will be released as planned before and Paul will write another book as part of this new series.......but then again,that would have been too good to be true  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:46:56
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Sish....The good news would have been,Godborn will be released as planned before and Paul will write another book as part of this new series.......but then again,that would have been too good to be true
I understand your feelings, I really do. But I got to see the gleam in his eye as he said it was making for a better novel and story. He was very sincere nd I m heartened that it was his decision to do this. If it wasn't about. Better story, why wouldn't an author rather sell two novels...only reason I can think of is he is walking the walk. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 22:57:07
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Originally posted by Dennis
Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.
But what I do know is that Paul could have wrote a new novel for the Sundering series and left Godborn alone.
Yes, he could have done that. But he's just the author; he's not WotC. And we know that what WotC wants, WotC gets. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 23:01:38
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Originally posted by ile
Sish....The good news would have been,Godborn will be released as planned before and Paul will write another book as part of this new series.......but then again,that would have been too good to be true
Can't agree more. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2012 : 23:17:11
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Dennis
Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.
But what I do know is that Paul could have wrote a new novel for the Sundering series and left Godborn alone.
Yes, he could have done that. But he's just the author; he's not WotC. And we know that what WotC wants, WotC gets.
Well Paul said himself it was his idea to link Godborn into the Sundering ". If wotc was doin things like they were not too long ago, they definately would have prefered 2 Paul S Kemp novels vs one. So allowing Paul to tell a better story they lost one of his novels, which have to rank high in FR sales. That has to say something |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 01:09:34
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Delwa
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Originally posted by Hawkins
While dismayed at yet another delay, the whole thing makes me happy. Though I am confused because I was pretty sure that there was already an event titled "The Sundering" (IIRC, when the Elves formed Evermeet). The re-use of terms already in use saddens me.
The title of Bob's book piques my interest.
I did see that on the FR Wiki, for whatever number of copper pieces that's worth. I can kinda live with it, though. I'd simply have the original Sundering something Elven cultures refer to as the First Sundering and then there will be the (all other Cultures) Great Sundering and so forth.
Although, this did spark an idea. I believe I recall some scribes talking about the Sundering that created Evermeet straining the Weave and bringing a part of the realm of the fey to Faerūn? If so, could this "Great Sundering" simply be a long-term effect of the original Sundering?
Well this "new" thing is called. THE Sundering.... So is it big enough it eclipses the original or is it more likey its a finish of the first? Or at least related in some way? By th way that was my pure conjecture.
Ed said " we were well aware there was already an event in the past named the Sundering" and smiled .... But he always smiles
Sounds to me like "The Sundering" is a more specific response to sorting out the apparent lack of lore surrounding the Spellplague event itself, and it's fallout.
Which is largely what I predicted in some of my pre-5e ramblings -- that Wizards would eventually lay out more of a firmament for exactly how the event, and it's future, played out.
So if this Sundering does indeed lead to the separation of worlds once again [though, I just hope it's not the intention to become too separate once again -- we've had a sampling of some of the awesomeness of Abeir, I'd rather not lose that], it does offer designers the lore-potential for some new explanations that more appropriately connect the lore-that-was with the lore-that-will-be. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 01:23:27
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Dennis
Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.
But what I do know is that Paul could have wrote a new novel for the Sundering series and left Godborn alone.
Yes, he could have done that. But he's just the author; he's not WotC. And we know that what WotC wants, WotC gets.
Well Paul said himself it was his idea to link Godborn into the Sundering ". If wotc was doin things like they were not too long ago, they definately would have prefered 2 Paul S Kemp novels vs one. So allowing Paul to tell a better story they lost one of his novels, which have to rank high in FR sales. That has to say something
Not meaning any disrespect to Paul, but that sucks even more. In the first place, they should NOT have announced any release dates prior to the supposed (?) final one, even if said dates were "tentative." People can get VERY impatient, you know. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 02:14:23
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Dennis
Fall 2013? That's just f@#$%^& crazy. Isn't this the fourth time they moved the release date? Honestly, I hate it...to the point that I'm seriously considering to forget it ever exists and not buy it at all.
But what I do know is that Paul could have wrote a new novel for the Sundering series and left Godborn alone.
Yes, he could have done that. But he's just the author; he's not WotC. And we know that what WotC wants, WotC gets.
Well Paul said himself it was his idea to link Godborn into the Sundering ". If wotc was doin things like they were not too long ago, they definately would have prefered 2 Paul S Kemp novels vs one. So allowing Paul to tell a better story they lost one of his novels, which have to rank high in FR sales. That has to say something
Not meaning any disrespect to Paul, but that sucks even more. In the first place, they should NOT have announced any release dates prior to the supposed (?) final one, even if said dates were "tentative." People can get VERY impatient, you know.
Errr... correct me if I'm wrong, but whenever a release has a "tentative" commentary attached to it, we're more than likely in for a long and/or delayed release at some point.
No disrespect to you, Dennis, but you really can't be all that angry at either Paul or Wizards -- especially in light of what we've learned about D&D Next and the new edition of the FORGOTTEN REALMS. Tentative releases dates are largely part and parcel of the RPG industry. It's just how the design and development process works -- to more appropriately reflect the shifts in how both game-design and fiction work hand-in-hand. |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 04:10:21
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 04:50:27
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Good things come to those that wait...
And wait ..... |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 05:16:19
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| Then it should be really good then... |
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Elfinblade
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 08:45:45
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Jeesh another pushback? 
Oh well. As long as Paul had a say in it i am confident it will make a fantastic read, and it will be worth the wait. I understand the sentiments of some people here, i've been waiting for this book since the last one, but the possibilities that could come from an event such as this should prove awesome.
By the way, is there a complete transcript of what was said in this seminar? Or even a video online somewhere? I googled it but that how far my search check went.  |
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Yoss
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 09:28:51
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Aug 2012 : 13:07:29
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And now I have that Tom Petty song stuck in my head.
Well...it is the hardest part [earworm] |
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The Red Walker
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Aug 2012 : 02:56:28
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Nice cover art for each book. |
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The Godborn. Book 2 of The Sundering. Fall 2013
