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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  17:00:06  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I would like to now a little about what kind of elfes there is in the realms, do anyone have som kind of a list? Bookwyrm? Sage of Perth? Anyone?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  21:16:35  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually Ezindir, I have many doc files that contain much information about all types of elves. I am, however, astonished that you did not ask me first! Anyways, if you're interested, let me know.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  21:28:31  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I figured out that you would find this topic in the end anyway , and maybe some others had somthing to say to. And of course I am interested, it was the reason I made this topic after all.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  22:15:25  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Come now, you know that I check the Active Topics Section quite frequuently, and comment on almost all of them. lol And as for your doc files, i would suggest you check your email later this evening, er, USA is evening, i dont know what it is over there in norway, or if the Time Zones are the same as US Eastern, well, anyways, check your mail later on

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  22:17:53  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oops, i may have sent the avariel part twice by accident, just delete one if i did.....

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 05 Jan 2004 :  22:24:14  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually i dont think it even got sent! Far too much data was included for it to come within even a few hours!!!!!! However, dont fret, I will find a way to get the data to you!

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  01:47:03  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
does any1 know anything about Mist Elves? ive seen a book on the mongoose website, its only in PDF format. they didnt make a phsical versiopn of it. does any1 know where i can download this PDF? or have any info on Mist Elves?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  01:48:15  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
actually, I've never heard of any mist elves before now. Is that in the Realms, or another world, such as Dragonlance, Greyhawk, etc.?
And if you could direct me to said website i would be most grateful.
One can never have too much elf lore!

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  01:56:18  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
aye http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/search.php?searchterm=mist elves

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The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  01:59:27  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye indeed! Thanks be to ye, Spellsage.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  02:02:02  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nay! my apologies http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/search.php?searchterm=mist elves

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The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  02:10:32  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tis quite all right. Say, I have an idea, would you like to hear it?

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  16:08:43  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would . And you did send to of the e-mail, but thanks .

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Cyric
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  16:27:12  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elfs are so boring and have boring gods humans are so more fun
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  16:44:23  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You just dont get it do you. Ask yourself:
1.How long do humans live?
2.Which race are you?
3.Which race look the coolest?
4.Which race have the most subraces?
5.Which race have the fast and cool fighting style?
6.Which race have the coolest weapon profeties?
And you'l soon see that the elfs are coolest nad the most fun .

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 06 Jan 2004 :  21:03:03  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said fellow elf, all subraces aside(For now ). Elves are so much cooler than humans, whether they be drow, or moon elves, or sea elves, no matter what subrace. And talk about horrible deities, YOURS WAS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY INSANE, BECAUSE OF HIS OWN BOOK!!!!!! You will never see a drow god do something so ignorant.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  14:13:27  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm...I am familiar with the Bookwyrm, but I know not of this 'Sage of Perth' that you speak...

Anyway, the most impressive FR elven resource that I have found online is the wonderful Cormanthyr section on the Myth-Drannor.net website. It has details on nearly every aspect of Elven culture, and an informed look at the different subraces.


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Cyric
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  17:48:01  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i se your point on elfs being better, but humans are in charge of pretty mouch the whole world and they have more interesting gods as Cyric and Bhaal both grand gods. And a human may Take the path of evil or god but a elf has a lesser choise in this matter.
Byt YOU WIL SE DEAR Shadowlord CYRIC SLAYING THE PUNEY AND LESSER DROWN GODS WHO ARE ALL LESSER IN STRENGHT AND FOLLLOWER, AS YOUR GOD MASK HAS EXPERIEND. Not that mask is a bad guy i think he and Cyric makes a good team.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  20:58:11  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Sage !!
Sorry about me failing your new name .

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  21:02:22  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

i se your point on elfs being better, but humans are in charge of pretty mouch the whole world and they have more interesting gods as Cyric and Bhaal both grand gods. And a human may Take the path of evil or god but a elf has a lesser choise in this matter.
Byt YOU WIL SE DEAR Shadowlord CYRIC SLAYING THE PUNEY AND LESSER DROWN GODS WHO ARE ALL LESSER IN STRENGHT AND FOLLLOWER, AS YOUR GOD MASK HAS EXPERIEND. Not that mask is a bad guy i think he and Cyric makes a good team.

How many times di I have to say it? i do not think that the elves are the best to play with in the realms I do simply think they are the coolest okey? Got it? And if you think the Humans are the coolest in the realms becouse they rule the most of it, you are weird.

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Hymn
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  21:23:38  Show Profile Send Hymn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So just thought I peep in an leave this note of elven subraces, as far as I have found out.

Aquatic elves.

Avariel.

Drow, or dark elf.

Moon elf, or silver elf

Sun elf, or gold elf.

Wild elf, or Green elf.

Wood elf, or copper elf.

If any info about them is needed just ask and I shall see what I can locate, :-)

Signed: Hymn

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Hymn
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Posted - 07 Jan 2004 :  21:35:31  Show Profile Send Hymn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As you lift he paper you also see that something is scribled on the backside.

One can also add to this list half-elves, but that is by some considering to cross the line. as for non canon subraces go I have some information on Shadowmoon elves if any one is interested. Also I saw a note somewhere about a sighted Drakken Elf (1/2 drow, 1/2 gray elf) but that most of course be a fleeting rumour. Also a note of Frost Elves could be found, but I must have lost it somewhere.

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mr.lee
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Norway
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  07:11:08  Show Profile  Visit mr.lee's Homepage Send mr.lee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir

You just dont get it do you. Ask yourself:
1.How long do humans live?
2.Which race are you?
3.Which race look the coolest?
4.Which race have the most subraces?
5.Which race have the fast and cool fighting style?
6.Which race have the coolest weapon profeties?
And you'l soon see that the elfs are coolest and the most fun


I must say that I disagree with you, Ezindir.
1. Humans live about a hundred years, but lets not forget the old Bibelic human, that lived in over 900 years (ex. Noah, Adam and Eve)
2. Human! Thats what makes it fun to play with, you can identify yourself with your Character.
3. Humans look the coolest. No doubt.
4. Elves, but the score is now Human 3 - 1 Elves
5. Dwarfs
6. Rather irrelevant, if you ask me. In "real" life, anyone can practice anything and get good at it.

+ Surface elves are racists.
+ Individual characters are more important than race (ex. Drizzt)
+ Drow are indeed in my opinion the coolest, because of their Evil alignment, and Dark skin.
+Surface elves are too noble

If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was.

Edited by - mr.lee on 08 Jan 2004 07:13:24
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  14:19:03  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr.lee

quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir

You just dont get it do you. Ask yourself:
1.How long do humans live?
2.Which race are you?
3.Which race look the coolest?
4.Which race have the most subraces?
5.Which race have the fast and cool fighting style?
6.Which race have the coolest weapon profeties?
And you'l soon see that the elfs are coolest and the most fun


I must say that I disagree with you, Ezindir.
1. Humans live about a hundred years, but lets not forget the old Bibelic human, that lived in over 900 years (ex. Noah, Adam and Eve)
2. Human! Thats what makes it fun to play with, you can identify yourself with your Character.
3. Humans look the coolest. No doubt.
4. Elves, but the score is now Human 3 - 1 Elves
5. Dwarfs
6. Rather irrelevant, if you ask me. In "real" life, anyone can practice anything and get good at it.

+ Surface elves are racists.
+ Individual characters are more important than race (ex. Drizzt)
+ Drow are indeed in my opinion the coolest, because of their Evil alignment, and Dark skin.
+Surface elves are too noble

Well so you think that humans look coolest , you are pretty strange. And the only character you can identify youtrself with is a lawful, good, human, figther, and thats not cooler than a elf . And if you say that all surface elfs is racists you are an racists yourself. And who other than Drizzt and his father is a good drow? And you cant say that all surface elf are not noble!! An what inn the nine hells!! Do you mean that there is bibelic humans in the realms, and anyway I am talking about the avarage elf and human. And Dwarfs do not have a cool and fast fighting style!! So shut up you stupid human !!

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Cherrn
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  14:30:40  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Read the Return of the Archwizards series, then you will see how racist and prejudiced surface elves can be, and i'm talking about the happy elves living in Evereska!

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  14:39:26  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well the elfs racism against the drows are being returned well enough, and mr.lee or lie, how can you judge all the elfs as one race and say that it is the inviduals that counts?

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Cherrn
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The racism shown in Return of the Archwizards is against humans. I think it's a brilliant series, go pick em up right now

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  14:50:40  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dont now anything about that!! And as mr.lie said: it is the inviduals that counts.

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mr.lee
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  15:26:01  Show Profile  Visit mr.lee's Homepage Send mr.lee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met(I'm your biggest fan, Alaundo!!)

Now, don't make a fool of yourself, Ezindir!
YOU are the one saying that elves are cooler! You are the one saying that a race is better than another! I just came up wih some arguments against your case! As for me identifying me with a lawful good fighter man, my human character would be a true neutral (as you no doubt know) mage with 18 charisma!
quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir

Well so you think that humans look coolest , you are pretty strange
Well, when I look at myself in the mirror, I can hardly see that an Elf would beat my looks!

And - Oh, my Lloth! What do I see here? First you say that you're talking about the AVERAGE ELF VS HUME, THEN YOU SAY THAT ITS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT COUNTS????

Whats wrong with you?

If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was.

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  15:31:55  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well yes I do think a elf could beat your looks, and whitout much trouble as well !! And I do not now so much about the elfs towns, but I still think that their are cooler than humans, but what I realy was talking about is the inviduals. And what do your Lloth think of you liking humans better than elfs?

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mr.lee
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Posted - 08 Jan 2004 :  15:42:57  Show Profile  Visit mr.lee's Homepage Send mr.lee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Lloth appreciates that I never ally Elves, in fact I enjoy stabbing them in their back, or capturing and sacrificing them!

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