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Hawkins
Great Reader
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 Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 18:04:01
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I stole this link from Brian's Twitter feed:
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 18:30:40
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Regarding the pronunciation of Drizzt's name, super-fans have parsed Bob's words in interviews, and he himself pronounces it "dritst".
The "zz" is pronounced like the "zz" in the word "pizza". (Bob has Italian heritage and all.) That is to say, the "zz" in Drizzt's name sounds like "ts". Add another "t" onto the end of that, and you get "dritst".
Though Bob will tell you to go ahead and pronounce it however the heck you feel like pronouncing it. It's no matter to him! |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 20:52:37
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Teefling and Sigill (like fish gill), eh?
I'll admit I've heard those pronunciations before, in the DDI 4E intro videos and in Planescape: Torment ... but I still prefer Tuyfling and Sijil. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 02:39:39
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-How people can mispronounce some of those words, I have no idea. Gelatinous Cube,for example? Come on...
-When people say 'Drow' where it rhymes with 'Row' instead of 'Ow!', that always aggravated me. Don't get me started on 'Vanilla'... |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 16:12:01
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-When people say 'Drow' where it rhymes with 'Row' instead of 'Ow!', that always aggravated me. Don't get me started on 'Vanilla'...
Hehe, as a french, I'm guilty of that. We have no words that rhymes with "how" (except when we get hurt, which is usually followed by a swear word, or a combination of many), so using the "row" pronunciation sounds less queer to us.
As for vanilla, I had no idea there were two ways to pronounce it. I'm probably using the wrong one. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36877 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 18:07:21
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Teefling and Sigill (like fish gill), eh?
I'll admit I've heard those pronunciations before, in the DDI 4E intro videos and in Planescape: Torment ... but I still prefer Tuyfling and Sijil.
Sijil is the pronunciation, according to the dictionary. I used to say Cy-gill, though. I broke myself of that after losing a bet on the pronunciation. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36877 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 18:11:13
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-When people say 'Drow' where it rhymes with 'Row' instead of 'Ow!', that always aggravated me.
I guess I would aggravate you on that one, then... To me, the row/tow pronunciation is easier to say and more logical than the "how now, brown cow?" pronunciation. I know the proper pronunciation, but it's not the one that comes most readily to mind.
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
Don't get me started on 'Vanilla'...
I don't know of any alternate pronunciations on this one, unless going for the Spanish "ll" letter instead of the English two Ls. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 18:40:48
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-When people say 'Drow' where it rhymes with 'Row' instead of 'Ow!', that always aggravated me.
I guess I would aggravate you on that one, then... To me, the row/tow pronunciation is easier to say and more logical than the "how now, brown cow?" pronunciation. I know the proper pronunciation, but it's not the one that comes most readily to mind.
/drō/ sounds more ancient and Britishy and omininous to me. (Perhaps I am subconsciously linking that to the "scro"?  )
/drau/ sounds, I don't know, silly and cartoonish. (One of my little brothers took German in high school, and I'm pretty sure I've been unwittingly linking this pronunciation to frau.  ) |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1297 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 19:18:46
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| I'm pronouncing it Drow as in "so" or "bow (and arrow)"...and that's how it is. Drow like "ow" sounds stupid to me. Last time I checked wikipedia, both pronounciations were correct. So drow like row it is. When I hear Bob speak at book signings I always want to yell at him to stop saying drauuu. He didn't invent the drow, so I don't accept his pronouncing it that way as gospel. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 19:50:17
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| Definitely rhyming with "bow", it never occurred to me to pronounce it any other way before I started reading forums. But this is probably more of a language/dialect thing which makes it a more logical pronunciation for me. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36877 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 19:53:19
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Originally posted by Seravin
I'm pronouncing it Drow as in "so" or "bow (and arrow)"...and that's how it is. Drow like "ow" sounds stupid to me. Last time I checked wikipedia, both pronounciations were correct. So drow like row it is. When I hear Bob speak at book signings I always want to yell at him to stop saying drauuu. He didn't invent the drow, so I don't accept his pronouncing it that way as gospel.
I don't recall where or when it was said, but it was official word from TSR/WotC that the proper pronunciation is with the "ow" sound.
That said, since drow are their property, they are free to change that, like they did with drow skintone. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 20:13:57
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I don't know of any alternate pronunciations on this one, unless going for the Spanish "ll" letter instead of the English two Ls.
-Va-Nill-A. Va-Nell-A. The latter is right in the world of me (which is the only right one), while the former is silly.
-Or, coffee, that's another one... |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 22:00:57
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| Well now, people in Southern California used to comment often about my quaint "Canadian accent". But I, too, prefer "how now brown drow" over "droe" or "droo" ... and I agree, people who can't pronounce vanilla or gelatinous really need to expand their vocabulary and reading material. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2012 : 02:00:18
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Teefling and Sigill (like fish gill), eh?
I'll admit I've heard those pronunciations before, in the DDI 4E intro videos and in Planescape: Torment ... but I still prefer Tuyfling and Sijil.
Sijil is the pronunciation, according to the dictionary. I used to say Cy-gill, though. I broke myself of that after losing a bet on the pronunciation.
I'm going from memory, but I think several characters in one of the old Planescape novels, referred to Sigil as Cy-gil. But I also recall it being said that such pronunciation also prompted strange looks from other folk who heard it pronounced in such a way. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2012 : 02:09:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-When people say 'Drow' where it rhymes with 'Row' instead of 'Ow!', that always aggravated me.
I guess I would aggravate you on that one, then... To me, the row/tow pronunciation is easier to say and more logical than the "how now, brown cow?" pronunciation. I know the proper pronunciation, but it's not the one that comes most readily to mind.
I tend to semi-regularly alternate the pronunciation of drow... like I do with any fantasy-based term, really, to help reflect the fact that most folk -- either in-game or at the tabletop -- have different ways of pronouncing a term. I'll rely on the row/tow sound for some games, and the "how now, brown cow" method for more historically-based games. I don't know why, really, but for whatever reason, I tend to think the "row/tow" is a more modern pronunciation, while "cow" is indicative of a more archaic pronouncement of the term "drow." |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2012 : 21:44:36
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Originally posted by Ayrik
... and I agree, people who can't pronounce vanilla or gelatinous really need to expand their vocabulary and reading material.
-A fantasy, made-up or of foreign origin (from the POV of English), that is what it is, and while it annoys me, I guess I can't get angry at someone who pronounces them 'incorrectly. A word like 'gelatinous', though, I mean, that's a real world. That, that's just... |
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JohnnyGrognard
Acolyte
USA
19 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2012 : 18:42:09
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Just having a discussion on this topic with some friends....
I would pronounce it Drow as in tow, row, when playing anything other than Forgotten Realms. It has pretty much become universally accepted as Drow with an Ow! in the Forgotten Realms.
Well, that's the way I see it any who. :) |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2012 : 20:35:39
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Ye Olde Sage
I'm going from memory, but I think several characters in one of the old Planescape novels, referred to Sigil as Cy-gil. But I also recall it being said that such pronunciation also prompted strange looks from other folk who heard it pronounced in such a way.
Confirmed, it is pronounced sig-gill by Morte several times in the Planescape: Torment game. I suppose it also prompted strange looks from other folk who heard it pronounced in such a way. But then, Morte probably prompts strange looks from other folk every time he speaks - even folk in Sigil (sijil) who are used to talking mimir-skulls and other weirdness. Morte's just special. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2012 : 21:53:31
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| Sijil sounds waaaaay better to me |
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